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  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    Yeah you must be thinking of a different DeSantis. His only base are the crazies...he seems levelheaded compared to them because they are crackpots from Flo(R)ida. The dude is a RWNJ who wears nice suits and everyone knows it. He would have to run even farther crazy to beat Trump...up to an including using Trump getting the vaccine and booster to prove he is compromised.

    Put it this way, no GOPer that left because of or voted against Trump is voting for DeSantis. Trump had the "outsider" appeal and could at least claim ignorance for his awful takes and policies. DeSantis runs the exact same policies and knows better. Him running on a campaign of sanity will die faster than Ted Cruz's resolve in a snowstorm. His only shot is to run the same type of campaign he would for re-election for Governor. Anti-Vax. Anti-Mask, Anti-CRT, Kill the Protesters, More Guns, Screw Women's Rights, Who Cares About Black People, Anti-LGBTQ, Voting is Bad and GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY. The only thing he won't do is tweet...

    Even if I believed a candidate had any shot at all trying to run a campaign that was "sane" (the GOP would reject them because that isn't who they are anymore and they accepted that) DeSantis trying it would be a disaster because he has way too public a profile. He is not some unknown entity, he is the face of the Grim Reaper these days. The only ones who would buy it are Politico...who still probably think he won the Pandemic.
    Agree completely. For the last 40 years, the only successful play in the GOP's playbook has been, "pivot right." The list of those who offered to govern from the center: Romney, McCain, Dole, even throw GHWB in there. All losers. The only realistic shot DeSantis would have would be to run to the *right* of Donald Trump, not as the candidate of sanity. Everybody who loved Trump could potentially be enticed to take a look at an even more extreme candidate. Not so for a centrist GOP candidate - that slice is way too small.
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    • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      die faster than Ted Cruz's resolve in a snowstorm
      I'd have gone with "die faster than Ted Cruz's resolve when his wife is insulted," but

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      • LOL, after all that it looks like the Beer Belly Putsch was just Putin practicing for what he really cared about. The conservadupes aren't just dupes, they're a beta test.
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        • Just when I think the GQP can't top itself they ask me to hold their beer.

          https://twitter.com/polialertcom/sta...ciAguLRuA&s=19

          In which Sen. Mitch McConnell distinguishes “African-American voters” from “Americans. “

          “…If you look at the statistics, African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans." https://t.co/2hF5rjiA0O

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          • Bill Barr met secretly with the 1/6 committee, expressly against the orders of the Typhoid Tyrant.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Bill Barr met secretly with the 1/6 committee, expressly against the orders of the Typhoid Tyrant.
              Huh. That's an interesting development. Angling to save his own bacon?
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              • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                Huh. That's an interesting development. Angling to save his own bacon?
                I assume. Conservatives have the fortitude of a debutante at the Marine Corps Ball.
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                • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                  Huh. That's an interesting development. Angling to save his own bacon?
                  Does he have a book to promote?
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                  • Tick tock, mother****ers.

                    ATLANTA (AP) — Judges have approved a request for a special grand jury by the Georgia prosecutor who’s investigating whether former President Donald Trump and others broke the law by trying to pressure Georgia officials to throw out Joe Biden’s presidential election victory.

                    Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis last week sent a letter to county superior court Chief Judge Christopher Brasher asking him to impanel a special grand jury. Brasher issued an order Monday saying the request was considered and approved by a majority of the superior court judges.

                    The special grand jury is to be seated May 2 for a period of up to a year, Brasher’s order says.
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                    • https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/...82620759900160

                      Federal court rules that Alabama’s new congressional map likely violates the Voting Rights Act and orders a new map to be drawn within the next 14 days.
                      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                      • We all know that polls have ceased to be the most reliable measure of what the public really thinks, but that doesn't mean they provide no useful data. The Gallup poll regarding party preferences in U.S. politics should frighten everyone to their core.

                        To me it points to both the growing concern that the Democrats have almost completely squandered any opportunity for putting this country on a better path politically, and that nearly 50% of this country is bat 5h!t crazy.

                        Republicans -- save for about the 7 or 8 elected to public office left in the entire country that are still tethered to reality -- have offered nothing in the way of a path forward to better the country. It is all the Big Lie, guns, God and the Gays with them. That's all there is. Yet the shift from Democrats to republicans is one of the largest seen in decades. Democrats will lose the U.S. House in the November mid-terms. With it will likely come an even stronger presence for republicans in state houses all over the country. And despite a very tough map in the U.S. Senate for republicans, I doubt very much the Democrats are going to hold on there either.

                        It is not surprising to me at all that the republican party did not lose any real favor in the 1980s or 1990s. Even when W was proving he was neither compassionate, nor conservative in the sense republicans like to think of themselves as conservatives I was not surprised to see them continue to win, and in some case win big. But after the last 6 years, when it has been completely exposed that the republican party is anti-democratic and completely bigoted, and let's face it, not just anti-democratic but full-on fascist, how can it be even more palatable to so many people?

                        Tell me there is a workable political solution to the troubles we face. I would like to believe in something positive. It already feels like we're not gonna have any Major League Baseball this year.
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                        • Political affiliation doesn't have anything to do with job performance anymore. It's purely tribal. You don't switch from Italian to Polish, you are what you are and now politics in the US is purely about demographics. It's poor uneducated whites (45% of the population) plus ultrarich sociopathic whites (75% of the wealth) against the rest of us. It's an even match. But nothing's going to change -- every election will be 49-49 because even though the GOP dies off a net 1% each cycle their vote suppression pulls us down by that same 1%.

                          The workable solution is keep fighting and eventually we will have 50 real Democrats in the Senate and we can pass a real VRA that does to today's Republican Jim Crow what the 1965 VRA did to Democrat Jim Crow.

                          Just don't give up. It's going to be a long, brutal fight. The Senate will soon be 40% of the population with 60% of the Senators -- but even LIBERAL flatland hayseeds still support that which is both sick and funny. That is eventually what has to be fixed. But obviously that will not be fixed until it is so bad the middle class can either fix it or lose everything -- another 16 years or so should do the trick.

                          My advice if you're anti-Nazi, is:
                          • If you're rich: swamp every election with your money. Buy seats, just like the bad guys do.
                          • If you're middle class: you're not middle class. It's a myth. You're either rich or working class, so pick a lane.
                          • If you're working class: protest, boycott as you are able, organize and demand better working conditions, educate your fellow workers.
                          • If you're outcast: if you have no job and no hope, then riot. But march to the rich neighborhood. Burn their houses, not your own.
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                          • Youngkin in VA has a tipline to report any teachers or administrators who are "behaving in any disturbing way as for example teaching divisive topics."

                            To all Republicans, on behalf of my teacher daughter: I pray you all die in pain, miserable, impoverished, alone, and aware of your utter lack of value, and knowing you will remembered alongside the Klan and Nazis, except as pathetic clowns. The world will only improve with your extinction. Hasten unto the day.
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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Youngkin in VA has a tipline to report any teachers or administrators who are "behaving in any disturbing way as for example teaching divisive topics."

                              To all Republicans, on behalf of my teacher daughter: I pray you all die in pain, miserable, impoverished, alone, and aware of your utter lack of value, and knowing you will remembered alongside the Klan and Nazis, except as pathetic clowns. The world will only improve with your extinction. Hasten unto the day.
                              SJHovey thinks that is just more pearl clutching.

                              Personally, I would have every Family of Color call the tip line and report things every damned day from now until they take the tipline down. Then I would have them go to the press.
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                                SJHovey thinks that is just more pearl clutching.

                                Personally, I would have every Family of Color call the tip line and report things every damned day from now until they take the tipline down. Then I would have them go to the press.
                                You seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about, or speculating on, my thoughts on particular subjects.
                                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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