Oh please. Manchin and Sinema are the villains right now. Just look at this Board, let alone some place like Vox or Slate. The GOP is sitting back and not interrupting the errors the Dems are making. Note, there's been zero pressure on Collins, Murkowski, or Romney to do anything despite being moderates.
While you're not wrong that the GOP and Moscow Mitch should be the villains, they ain't. But get McConnell and/or McCarthy back in charge of a chamber, and they can be once again.
And that's the wrongheaded thinking that has sunk the Democratic Party since 1980.
Oh please. Manchin and Sinema are the villains right now. Just look at this Board, let alone some place like Vox or Slate. The GOP is sitting back and not interrupting the errors the Dems are making. Note, there's been zero pressure on Collins, Murkowski, or Romney to do anything despite being moderates.
While you're not wrong that the GOP and Moscow Mitch should be the villains, they ain't. But get McConnell and/or McCarthy back in charge of a chamber, and they can be once again.
Who will pressure Romney? He’s not even moderate, and he’s from conservative Utah. Murkowski, maybe. She’s got a potentially tough election in 2022, but I don’t think assisting Democrats in “deficit-busting federal overreach” will help her with re-election. Collins just got re-elected in a landslide in blue Maine. Clearly, their voters aren’t too worried about Democratic priorities getting passed. So, none of them have any pressure from their constituents. MSM just wants drama, so they won’t pressure anyone. Manchin’s pressure is almost in the opposite direction. Sinema is the only one that makes no sense from a political standpoint, at least to my eyes.
Actually it is supposed to be JFK Sr. Jr. and Jackie...
This country is ****ed...
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
uno has a point...although to be fair Manchin and Sinema make themselves the enemy. Although Sinema seems to have caved on prescription drugs in the Biden Plan so there is that.
2 years of McCarthy as Speaker will probably be more helpful than anything the Dems could do leading to 2024.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
Actually it is supposed to be JFK Sr. Jr. and Jackie...
This country is ****ed...
I mean, cmon, that has to be someone trolling them, right? At what point is it just too ridiculous? How does JFK transfer power? Even if he's still alive his term ended almost 60 years ago. And the Julian calendar? Is there some story here that the Gregorian calendar is evil or something?
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RoverFrenchy, Classic! Great post. iwh30I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man gregg729I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence." Ritt18you are the perfect representation of your alma mater. Miss ThundercatThat's it, you win. TBA#2I want to kill you and dance in your blood. DisplacedCornellianHahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.
uno has a point...although to be fair Manchin and Sinema make themselves the enemy. Although Sinema seems to have caved on prescription drugs in the Biden Plan so there is that.
2 years of McCarthy as Speaker will probably be more helpful than anything the Dems could do leading to 2024.
2 years of McCarthy may end the country altogether. There may be nothing left in 2024. Hell, Manchin is trying his best by himself.
Honestly, in terms of gearing up for 2024, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have a tangible villain to run against. Part of why the Dems are struggling this year and likely next year is that they nominally control the government and still can't do shiat cause of the Senate. If the GOP controls Congress in 15 months, it splits the damage for inaction and gives Biden a foil to play off of.
All this gets us is a few years of republicans pulling this country even further to the right, and to fascism. And if they go just a little bit too fast, democrats come in for a term or two and everything grinds to a halt. But it never moves back in the direction it used to be. It is a never ending cycle that has led us to where we are now, and where we almost ended up on 1-6-21.
The next time (2024, if those boogie men convince enough Americans that we're not quite ready for a fascist government and vote to keep a democrat in the White House) they will be a lot more organized and a lot better prepared and will almost certainly have more states controlled by trump republicans and not republicans who still have some semblance of a functional tether to reality. Oh, and a republican U.S. House.
The next time, Wisconsin and Arizona and Michigan and Georgia probably will not turn out like they did in 2020, no matter who wins the majority of the votes. I want to know what voters are going to do when their candidate wins and the people who they expect will do the right thing end up doing the fascist thing?
It's a little ironic that if we want to prevent widespread violence, republicans probably need to win. Most democrats will probably accept the results if all the indicators are a republican has won. I guarantee that in any purple state in this country there won't be 1 republican in 10 who will buy a democrat winning. My guess is the event a democrat appears to have won in November 2024, the aftermath of the that election will make the events of 1-6-21 look like the tourist event myth republicans have been spreading since 1-7-21.
RoverFrenchy, Classic! Great post. iwh30I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man gregg729I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence." Ritt18you are the perfect representation of your alma mater. Miss ThundercatThat's it, you win. TBA#2I want to kill you and dance in your blood. DisplacedCornellianHahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.
2 years of McCarthy may end the country altogether. There may be nothing left in 2024. Hell, Manchin is trying his best by himself.
Speaker doesn't have that much power. It isnt like he will be able to pass anything if the Senate doesn't flip. And even if it does Biden will just veto it anyways since they won't be close to a veto proof majority.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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