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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    I'm sorry to belabor this, because you answered straight without a dodge, but I want to ask a follow up.

    How is it wrong?

    I can't understand why your Bat Phone hasn't arrived. Maybe it's on back order. My ComSymp Nano Invisible Earpiece arrived via Prime Next Day immediately after I ate my first baby and pledged my soul to the Horned God (PBUH).

    You Nazis need better logistics.
    It probably got lost in the flood of Amazon boxes that arrive addressed to my wife each day.

    With respect to the bill, a caveat. I have not read the actual bill, so I am basically going by what I have heard as the summary highlights on the news.

    First, I believe they are trying to demand things like social security numbers and the like for ballots. I think that's wrong. I think it's ok to ask someone to state or declare where they reside, and even like we do in Minnesota, have them bring in a utility bill or something that shows they are getting mail there, or even someone who also resides in that voting area who will attest to it.

    I have also heard they are trying to restrict voting hours. In my opinion I think that there should be some sort of designated voting period during a day, but I think it ought to be at least 12 hours long.

    I think they are trying to limit things like drop boxes or drive through voting and other methods that were sort of implemented out of the blue due to the pandemic. I am less concerned about those limitations. We have drop boxes. They are called U.S. Mail boxes. Furthermore, last I checked, a U.S. mail representative actually comes to your house (although apparently without my bat phone).

    I've heard they are trying to make it tougher to vote by absentee ballot. I am not in favor of that at all. I think so long as there are rules about where you get a ballot, how you get a ballot, and the time by when it has to be in to count, you ought to be able to vote by absentee ballot if you want, and you shouldn't need a note from your doctor to do so. But there should be specific rules about when, where and how to pick up the ballot (or have it mailed to you) and getting it back to them.

    I think they had some crap in there about punishing poll watchers or election workers who look crosswise at one another, and frankly I couldn't get two ****s about Texan on Texan violence.

    Honestly, those are really the only things about the legislation that stuck in my mind, but I'm sure there are other things.
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    • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
      I think they are trying to limit things like drop boxes or drive through voting and other methods that were sort of implemented out of the blue due to the pandemic. I am less concerned about those limitations. We have drop boxes. They are called U.S. Mail boxes. Furthermore, last I checked, a U.S. mail representative actually comes to your house (although apparently without my bat phone).
      There is nothing wrong with seemingly redundant methods as long as they have the same level of security. Some people prefer to take it farther themselves; I sure did last year when the mail system had issues. There is no difference security-wise between placing it in your own mailbox or going to a drop box in the town square, or for that matter dropping it off in a drive-through box.

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      • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
        Honestly, those are really the only things about the legislation that stuck in my mind, but I'm sure there are other things.
        Do you agree that the purpose of all of these things is to rig the election for Republicans?
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          But you see, in his mind, him screwing 14 year olds doesn't make him a pedophile.

          Its all them libbie commie socialists screwing 14 year olds who are pedophiles.

          He's a real 'Murican. He's got a god-given right to screw 14 year olds.
          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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          • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

            I think they are trying to limit things like drop boxes or drive through voting and other methods that were sort of implemented out of the blue due to the pandemic. I am less concerned about those limitations. We have drop boxes. They are called U.S. Mail boxes. Furthermore, last I checked, a U.S. mail representative actually comes to your house.
            The US mail can be manipulated- in terms of pick up and delivery. While it's not supposed to be a political arm, it became one thanks to mail in voting. That's why actual, secure, drop boxes are a great option.

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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              Do you agree that the purpose of all of these things is to rig the election for Republicans?
              I'm still wondering how it's a "natural reaction to what was going on" when NOTHING was going on- not one single allegation was proven to be accurate. It was just "feelings" because Racists were losing.

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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                Do you agree that the purpose of all of these things is to rig the election for Republicans?
                No no no. Its the fraud. The overwhelming amounts of fraud. Fraud like you've never seen before.

                Its gotta be stopped.
                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                  Do you agree that the purpose of all of these things is to rig the election for Republicans?
                  I tend to be less accusatory than others on this site. So here is what I'll say.

                  Are there individuals in Texas who are behind or support this legislation because they believe it is politically expedient to do so, either because it might be politically popular with their constituents or because they think some people may not make the effort to vote if more requirements are in place, and those people probably won't vote for that politician? I'm sure there are. I would certainly bet on it.

                  Are there also individuals in Texas who legitimately believe these measures are important, who think that you should basically only be allowed to vote on election day, at an election precinct, during a certain window in time, and that you should have to prove who you are before you can vote, and that such requirements are fundamental to running clean and fair elections? I'm sure those people exist as well, and would be willing to bet on that, too.

                  Unlike a number of my fellow posters, I am incapable of reading minds, so I'll decline to name names with respect to who might fall into either category.
                  That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                    I tend to be less accusatory than others on this site. So here is what I'll say.

                    Are there individuals in Texas who are behind or support this legislation because they believe it is politically expedient to do so, either because it might be politically popular with their constituents or because they think some people may not make the effort to vote if more requirements are in place, and those people probably won't vote for that politician? I'm sure there are. I would certainly bet on it.

                    Are there also individuals in Texas who legitimately believe these measures are important, who think that you should basically only be allowed to vote on election day, at an election precinct, during a certain window in time, and that you should have to prove who you are before you can vote, and that such requirements are fundamental to running clean and fair elections? I'm sure those people exist as well, and would be willing to bet on that, too.

                    Unlike a number of my fellow posters, I am incapable of reading minds, so I'll decline to name names with respect to who might fall into either category.
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                    • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      Are there also individuals in Texas who legitimately believe these measures are important, who think that you should basically only be allowed to vote on election day, at an election precinct, during a certain window in time, and that you should have to prove who you are before you can vote, and that such requirements are fundamental to running clean and fair elections? I'm sure those people exist as well, and would be willing to bet on that, too.
                      Do those people have any proof that those specific measures are the only way to ensure safe elections, and that other voting methods in any way made it unsafe? They can believe it earnestly all they want, it doesn't matter if they have no evidence and are straight-up incorrect. Someone can earnestly believe the earth is flat, that doesn't mean the correct answer is somewhere halfway between flat and round.

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                      Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                      iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                      gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                      Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                      Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                      TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                      DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                      Test to see if I can add this.

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                      • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

                        Do those people have any proof that those specific measures are the only way to ensure safe elections, and that other voting methods in any way made it unsafe? They can believe it earnestly all they want, it doesn't matter if they have no evidence and are straight-up incorrect. Someone can earnestly believe the earth is flat, that doesn't mean the correct answer is somewhere halfway between flat and round.
                        The only proof is that the minuscule fraud that exists is done by Rs.

                        if hovey can’t read minds it means the chemtrails have gotten to him

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                        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                          I tend to be less accusatory than others on this site. So here is what I'll say.

                          Are there individuals in Texas who are behind or support this legislation because they believe it is politically expedient to do so, either because it might be politically popular with their constituents or because they think some people may not make the effort to vote if more requirements are in place, and those people probably won't vote for that politician? I'm sure there are. I would certainly bet on it.

                          Are there also individuals in Texas who legitimately believe these measures are important, who think that you should basically only be allowed to vote on election day, at an election precinct, during a certain window in time, and that you should have to prove who you are before you can vote, and that such requirements are fundamental to running clean and fair elections? I'm sure those people exist as well, and would be willing to bet on that, too.

                          Unlike a number of my fellow posters, I am incapable of reading minds, so I'll decline to name names with respect to who might fall into either category.
                          I don't think this is evasion, I think it's willful blindness. I said a long time ago the only people with a chance to be heroes in our time were conservatives. It's easy for me, who hates the Right agenda, to oppose them. The only people with the opportunity to demonstrate character in this situation are people who really want their side to win elections but who refuse to win by destroying democracy. Those people are the only ones who will put the country ahead of themselves, and they're the only ones who will be patriots during this turn of the wheel. And probably because that is so hard, there are virtually none of them.

                          Maybe someday there will be a Left that endangers our country and I will have the chance to stand up to them; then I will know what I'm made of. But I would encourage you to think: you are being tested. This is when you discover what you are made of.

                          The Nazis were never more than a tiny minority. They gained and coalesced power because vast numbers of people went along with them for ideological convenience, or because they just couldn't be bothered to stand up to them. It was more comfortable for them to lawyer the point than to face what the Nazis were.

                          That's what the GOP is now. They're not even hiding it.
                          Last edited by Kepler; 06-04-2021, 03:18 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

                            Do those people have any proof that those specific measures are the only way to ensure safe elections, and that other voting methods in any way made it unsafe? They can believe it earnestly all they want, it doesn't matter if they have no evidence and are straight-up incorrect. Someone can earnestly believe the earth is flat, that doesn't mean the correct answer is somewhere halfway between flat and round.
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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                              I don't think this is evasion, I think it's willful blindness. I said a long time ago the only people with a chance to be heroes in our time were conservatives. It's easy for me, who hates the Right agenda, to oppose them. The only people with the opportunity to demonstrate character in this situation are people who really want their side to win elections but who refuse to win by destroying democracy. Those people are the only ones who will put the country ahead of themselves, and they're the only ones who will be patriots during this turn of the wheel. And probably because that is so hard, there are virtually none of them.

                              Maybe someday there will be a Left that endangers our country and I will have the chance to stand up to them; then I will know what I'm made of. But I would encourage you to think: you are being tested. This is when you discover what you are made of.

                              The Nazis were never more than a tiny minority. They gained and coalesced power because vast numbers of people went along with them for ideological convenience, or because they just couldn't be bothered to stand up to them. It was more comfortable for them to lawyer the point than to face what the Nazis were.

                              That's what the GOP is now. They're not even hiding it.
                              The Good Germans.

                              Stand up and take a bow, Hovey.
                              What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                              • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                                I tend to be less accusatory than others on this site. So here is what I'll say.

                                Are there individuals in Texas who are behind or support this legislation because they believe it is politically expedient to do so, either because it might be politically popular with their constituents or because they think some people may not make the effort to vote if more requirements are in place, and those people probably won't vote for that politician? I'm sure there are. I would certainly bet on it.

                                Are there also individuals in Texas who legitimately believe these measures are important, who think that you should basically only be allowed to vote on election day, at an election precinct, during a certain window in time, and that you should have to prove who you are before you can vote, and that such requirements are fundamental to running clean and fair elections? I'm sure those people exist as well, and would be willing to bet on that, too.

                                Unlike a number of my fellow posters, I am incapable of reading minds, so I'll decline to name names with respect to who might fall into either category.
                                Sheesh. I know a good chiropractor who can help you get out of that pretzel.

                                We’re not asking you to read the minds of every “individual” who supports these changes. Let’s start small. Do you believe that the 83 GOP members of the Texas legislature are pure of motive and truly believe that these changes are needed to prevent the counting of thousands upon thousands of ballots that *should not* count? Or do you think that their intent is to make voting just a little less convenient, so that there will be thousands of people who don’t vote whose votes *should have* counted?

                                It’s not that hard. You’d easily be able to admit that the GOP is trying to pull a fast one, if only you weren’t starting from the position that whatever keeps true patriots (ie people who agree with you) in power must be a good thing and then let the logic twist from there.

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