Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

[Kepler]

I don't know how I ever lived without this.

[Kepler]

Or this.

[Kepler]

My god, the Tifosi.



Meanwhile...

[Spartanforlife4]

I don't understand why it took two laps for the safety car to come out after it was called. Not that I think it would've changed the results with Max on new softs and Leclerc and Russell on used, but would've been nice to have at least a couple laps of green to end the race.

[Russell Jaslow]

I don't understand why it took two laps for the safety car to come out after it was called. Not that I think it would've changed the results with Max on new softs and Leclerc and Russell on used, but would've been nice to have at least a couple laps of green to end the race.

I don’t think it took two laps. I think the TV producer never picked it up for two laps.

Once the safety car call comes out, the field has to slow down to a delta time, whether the safety car is actually on the track. At that point the Marshalls were trying to push the car. The problem was, it was stuck in gear. At that point all hope of green flag running was lost (unless your name is Masi…) because they had to bring out the crane, and that ate up the rest of the time when you also factor in the lapped cars being moved around.

What I want investigated was why was Ricciardo's car still in gear? That is specifically against the rules. You must put it in neutral when you stop the car (which is what caused the Sainz rolling car fire fiasco). Obviously, there are certain mechanical reasons why a driver can’t leave it in neutral, but I’ve heard nothing from the FIA that this will be investigated. Hopefully, I simply missed that announcement.

[Kepler]

That ending showed me I still don't understand 90% of the rules. Everything involving who had to slow down when, and how they got cars unlapped, was completely gibberish to me.

Likewise I always have problems with undercutting, and why teams play that game of chicken where they do the opposite of the pitting decision of their immediate competition. If there is a primer on what the tactical considerations are I'd love to read it. I can see the following issues being involved, but they don't add up to the gyrations I see on the track:

1. The number and identity of cars you fall behind when you pit. That's more you have to pass and more chance of being trapped behind a slower vehicle and losing lap times.

2. The amount of time you spend on the different hardness of tires. This is the tradeoff between lap speed and tire degradation.

3. The amount of time you spend warming tires up. An efficiency function where you try to limit poor performance on colder tires.

4. Obviously, the actual hit you take on time in pitting.

5. Team effects in lining up cars you can use to tow or block.

[MichVandal]

Hard to point out all of the possibilities, but a few years ago, Hamilton went out and held up the entire field until the pit window was about to open, then he Hammer Timed it to gap to 4th for a pit, so there was no way to undercut his work. Basically, he forced one strategy from the front. Pretty brilliant plan.

But learning about all of your questions will make F1 even more fun.

[Kepler]

Hard to point out all of the possibilities, but a few years ago, Hamilton went out and held up the entire field until the pit window was about to open, then he Hammer Timed it to gap to 4th for a pit, so there was no way to undercut his work. Basically, he forced one strategy from the front. Pretty brilliant plan.

But learning about all of your questions will make F1 even more fun.

Oh yah, the experience of learning is something Dr. Mrs. and I are sharing and enjoying.

[Russell Jaslow]

What I want investigated was why was Ricciardo's car still in gear? That is specifically against the rules. You must put it in neutral when you stop the car (which is what caused the Sainz rolling car fire fiasco). Obviously, there are certain mechanical reasons why a driver can’t leave it in neutral, but I’ve heard nothing from the FIA that this will be investigated. Hopefully, I simply missed that announcement.

I finally caught up with the post race shows, and in Daniel Ricciardo's interview, he said when everything shut down, it was stuck in gear. So, it sounds like he had no way to get it into neutral.

[Russell Jaslow]

Oh yah, the experience of learning is something Dr. Mrs. and I are sharing and enjoying.

Keep in mind, everything in racing is a compromise. Everything. So when a team has to answer all those strategy questions you asked in a previous post -- on the fly no less -- they are weighing the best compromise(s) possible.

[MichVandal]

Keep in mind, everything in racing is a compromise. Everything. So when a team has to answer all those strategy questions you asked in a previous post -- on the fly no less -- they are weighing the best compromise(s) possible.

Which makes “Monday morning team principal” more fun, lol.

[Kepler]

OMG

[solovsfett]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f.../10369618/amp/


bua ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I’m not sure Ross Braun could help them at this point.

[Russell Jaslow]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f.../10369618/amp/


bua ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I’m not sure Ross Braun could help them at this point.

Two words -- Adrian Newey.

[solovsfett]

Two words -- Adrian Newey.

! Yes sir. Newey has designed more championship cars than Brady has Super Bowls.
EDIT. newey has designed cars that have won 7 F1 titles and 2 INDYCAR titles from what I can tell. So 9-7 Newey vs Brady

Side note thinking about F1…I live in Milwaukee. My dad’s favorite racecar driver not named A.J. Foyt was Jim Clark. Next year in August will be 60 years since Clark won an INDYCAR race at the Milwaukee Mile. Tonight I found the race program from 1963. Man…what an incredible era that must have been for race fans.