Originally posted by Spartanforlife4
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So…INDYCAR is not introducing a new chassis, their video game vendor was a fraud so no game next year (they haven’t had one on the market in 20 years), they’ve now delayed their ERS next year to mid-season, they cannot find a 3rd OEM ANd now Honda says they’ll leave in 2026 if costs don’t come down (which is essentially, why are we here?? There’s no return on investment)…
I thought Roger Penske was supposed to be a brilliant businessman? He’s failed. Over and over again with INDYCAR.
If this series will survive they need to go back to their roots. Open up the rule book, make the engines sound like Jacques Villeneuve’s Players sponsored beast and have some real horsepower again. Like this: https://youtu.be/8czCR5Bh7fY?si=-jZljfIie4maZFeuEverything in its right place, Wisconsin Hockey National Champs!
"but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.
"I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2
Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!
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Logan Sargeant is expensive.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View PostGuenther Steiner is out at Haas.Cornell University
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Edit: woof. He doesn't have to call Gene.Cornell University
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Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
This is a few seasons late, imho.
I hope he takes his gorgeous wife and drives off to his vineyard in Italy. From something I read he's apparently a practically a billionaire, too. He can live like Montaigne for the next 30 years. Pure bliss. Leave the BS behind.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
Pfft. What could he have done? They have zero resources. His job was to say cute things on DTS and pose with boats.
I hope he takes his gorgeous wife and drives off to his vineyard in Italy. From something I read he's apparently a practically a billionaire, too. He can live like Montaigne for the next 30 years. Pure bliss. Leave the BS behind.
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Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
Focus on learning the core issues instead of just throwing parts at the car. He managed like a business person running a hardcore engineering group. They had enough resources to do well, but I don't think he lead all that well.
Though, I mean, putting it like that, maybe he should have failed faster.
Is Haas ever going to get above, say, 7th, though? It seems to me that a backmarker's Principal's job is to make sure the team doesn't go bankrupt and the owner stays more interested in wasting money on F1 than, say, Epstein's island.
Last edited by Kepler; 01-10-2024, 06:55 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
I thought his background was as a car guy? Like Binotto, I thought he was a great nuts and bolts guy who just couldn't balance (and couldn't stand) the financial-political stuff as Principal?
Though, I mean, putting it like that, maybe he should have failed faster.
Is Haas ever going to get above, say, 7th, though? It seems to me that a backmarker's Principal's job is to make sure the team doesn't go bankrupt and the owner stays more interested in wasting money on F1 than, say, Epstein's island.
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Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
They have shown clear potential to do it. But Gunther getting sponsors like Rich Energy and Urkalai (sp?) put a quick end to that. Even now, they have a really quick car, but have never really figured out how to keep the tires under the car. Even when that's been the only real problem for years.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
Don't you get the Sponsors you can? Do you think Berkshire Hathaway was coming through that door?
Urkalai was basically a russian billionaire paying his kids seat.
And the latter was totally because the former.
Haas joined F1 in 2016, and they didn't get a real sponsor until 2023 until an actual sponsor came to the team. That's 100% on Gunther.
And he's a business guy. Trying to lead an engineering team with that kind of complications, yea.
I really thought he should have been canned after the Rich Energy debacle.
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