Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

[Kepler]

Per formula1.com, all drivers will carry over to 2024.

[Russell Jaslow]

Per formula1.com, all drivers will carry over to 2024.

When was the last time there were no rookies in the field?

[Kepler]

When was the last time there were no rookies in the field?

This was my first full season.

[Spartanforlife4]

Per formula1.com, all drivers will carry over to 2024.

There's a Formula 4??? The amount of money poured into racing astounds me. There are some teams in the upper echelons of NASCAR barely getting by and then you hear about these no-name circuits that run with cars with no sponsors, but it exists.

It's like when I learned there's a league under the USHL and NAHL called the NA3HL. The economics must work somehow for the owners, but I don't get it. At least at that level they don't have to pay the players. It makes even less sense to me how the SPHL can pay players and have travel from Peoria to Pensacola.

[MichVandal]

There's a Formula 4??? The amount of money poured into racing astounds me. There are some teams in the upper echelons of NASCAR barely getting by and then you hear about these no-name circuits that run with cars with no sponsors, but it exists.

It's like when I learned there's a league under the USHL and NAHL called the NA3HL. The economics must work somehow for the owners, but I don't get it. At least at that level they don't have to pay the players. It makes even less sense to me how the SPHL can pay players and have travel from Peoria to Pensacola.

That’s why if you go to an F1 race, go to one in Europe with all of the support races. Iirc, there were well over 10 races we saw at Spa.

[Russell Jaslow]

This was my first full season.

Which means you won't be a rookie next year. So, my question still holds. LOL

[Jimjamesak]

There's a Formula 4??? The amount of money poured into racing astounds me. There are some teams in the upper echelons of NASCAR barely getting by and then you hear about these no-name circuits that run with cars with no sponsors, but it exists.

It's like when I learned there's a league under the USHL and NAHL called the NA3HL. The economics must work somehow for the owners, but I don't get it. At least at that level they don't have to pay the players. It makes even less sense to me how the SPHL can pay players and have travel from Peoria to Pensacola.

NASCAR even has a “Formula 4” level series in the ARCA series.

Funny thing is, racing is *ing massive with just the four wheel stuff. There’s a bunch of stuff for motorcycle racing too.

[Kepler]

NASCAR even has a “Formula 4” level series in the ARCA series.

Funny thing is, racing is *ing massive with just the four wheel stuff. There’s a bunch of stuff for motorcycle racing too.

Looking in from the outside, it feels like motorcycle racing is even bigger in Europe than auto. Every European male I've known from working class to upper class twit of the year is obsessed with it.

[Jimjamesak]

Looking in from the outside, it feels like motorcycle racing is even bigger in Europe than auto. Every European male I've known from working class to upper class twit of the year is obsessed with it.

Big in Japan too.

TBF, it’s a bit niche here but the US has way more MotoGP World Champions (8 of them) than F1 World Champions (2). More recent too (RIP Nicky Hayden).

[Spartanforlife4]

NASCAR even has a “Formula 4” level series in the ARCA series.

Funny thing is, racing is *ing massive with just the four wheel stuff. There’s a bunch of stuff for motorcycle racing too.

Was it ARCA that would’ve likely had a different winner last year but the team performing the best couldn’t afford to go to every race? Or something like that I swear I remember reading.

[Jimjamesak]

Was it ARCA that would’ve likely had a different winner last year but the team performing the best couldn’t afford to go to every race? Or something like that I swear I remember reading.

The only thing I know about ARCA is the “ARCA BRAKES!!!” meme…

[Spartanforlife4]

Looks like Catalunya is going to lose the Spanish Grand Prix for a decade starting in 2026 for a street circuit in Madrid.

[Kepler]

Looks like Catalunya is going to lose the Spanish Grand Prix for a decade starting in 2026 for a street circuit in Madrid.

What's the impetus for that? Aren't street tracks much more expensive for F1?

[Spartanforlife4]

What's the impetus for that? Aren't street tracks much more expensive for F1?

I’m sure politics are playing a part, if not the entire reason for it. Madrid gets to take something away from Barcelona.

[Kepler]

I’m sure politics are playing a part, if not the entire reason for it. Madrid gets to take something away from Barcelona.

Break up Spain and bring back Aragon, Castille, Navarre, and Granada. So much cooler.