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  • #481
    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

    I don't think Max got close enought to force Horner's hand. So, we'll never know...
    It was hinted at during one of the radio messages. Checo was told to keep it somewhere around 32.6 + .4, Checo asked where Max was and they said 32.2 so Checo asked why he doesn't just run at Max's pace and they told him just keep going.

    On the other hand, Max asked what the fastest lap was, RB told him they aren't concerned about that, but Max said he is. Then goes all out on the final lap to get the extra point.
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    • #482
      Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post

      Penalty is reversed as in Alonso is back to 3rd? But you expect them to reverse the reversal?
      To reverse the reversal, you would have to go back... wait... that would be forward, right?

      Yes, Alonso 3rd.

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      • #483
        F1 tackling the serious issues in the sport.
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        • #484
          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          F1 tackling the serious issues in the sport.
          That's really funny for me. I used to autocross a lot (like 10-15 times a summer) and using anything wheeled to do the course walk has been banned forever. SO It's pretty funny that the top line racers are brought down to our level there.

          And it kind of ignores the really super high fidelity models that are used in driving simulators.

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          • #485
            I love this guy so much.
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            • #486
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              • #487


                No longer Mattia's problem.
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                • #488
                  NASCAR ending to an F1 race. Who could have figured that given a grid restart they would be that aggressive? What a mess.

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                  • #489
                    Forgot to record the live race so recorded a replay, but it goes from a red flag at lap 56 to the rolling finish at lap 58 after commercial breaks. Apparently I missed a lot?

                    Also like ESPN listing this with zero context as the closest finish since the early 2000s when it’s not like Hamilton could’ve overtaken anyway.
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                    • #490
                      Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                      Forgot to record the live race so recorded a replay, but it goes from a red flag at lap 56 to the rolling finish at lap 58 after commercial breaks. Apparently I missed a lot?

                      Also like ESPN listing this with zero context as the closest finish since the early 2000s when it’s not like Hamilton could’ve overtaken anyway.
                      Yup. Kind of an expected chaotic finish- they tried to restart at lap 56, but there was carnage at the first turn, so had to revert back to that start to finish under the safety car. Except that neither Alpine finished because they crashed (heavily) each other out, and Sainz got a questionable 5 second penalty for starting it all- moving him from 4th to 12th.

                      I really don't understand why racing has to finish under green. Makes no sense. The original red could have been dealt with via VSC or SC, but they want to have race finish drama even if it's made up. Max had a 10 second lead, it was hardly going to be interesting.

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                      • #491
                        The whole race was a hot mess. This was the first time Dr. Mrs. & I were watching when everything fell apart.

                        Alpine needs to get right with the Lawd, they really got f-cked.
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                        • #492
                          Originally posted by MichVandal View Post
                          Sainz got a questionable 5 second penalty for starting it all- moving him from 4th to 12th.
                          Was it questionable? It sure looked like his fault.

                          The worst part was it broke Tsunoda's streak of 11th place finishes.
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                          • #493
                            Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

                            Yup. Kind of an expected chaotic finish- they tried to restart at lap 56, but there was carnage at the first turn, so had to revert back to that start to finish under the safety car. Except that neither Alpine finished because they crashed (heavily) each other out, and Sainz got a questionable 5 second penalty for starting it all- moving him from 4th to 12th.

                            I really don't understand why racing has to finish under green. Makes no sense. The original red could have been dealt with via VSC or SC, but they want to have race finish drama even if it's made up. Max had a 10 second lead, it was hardly going to be interesting.
                            Are there specific protocols on when to start from the grid versus a rolling start after a red?

                            For a sport with so many specific regulations and points of emphasis on seemingly trivial things, once it comes to race day there are a lot of decisions that appear to be completely random.
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                            • #494
                              Where the hell was Leclerc?

                              indyar in Texas was pretty amazing! Newgarden with the win.
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                              "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                              "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                              Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                              • #495
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                                Was it questionable? It sure looked like his fault.

                                The worst part was it broke Tsunoda's streak of 11th place finishes.
                                I think so. If that had happened in the middle of the race, and was just an aggressive pass, sure, he would be at fault. But it was a grid (re)start, so all of the cars were really bunched together. And everyone is scrambling for position- just like the start of the race. I think that would have been ok on lap 1, and it was similar to something that did happen on lap 1.

                                It's a whole lot less clear than other situations.

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