Yeah, that's not Leslie Nielsen. And I have a copy of Top Secret in my collection. It's a classic!
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
Solid A, if not A+. Brilliant. Best comic book movie I've seen.
I think that was the last movie I saw in a theater. Truly a terrific and unsettling movie.
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
Phoenix carried that film unlike many actors before him. Just perfect!
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
That seems like a bad trait for a movie. If someone has to carry it, its probably not good?
He didnt carry it cause it was bad, he carried it because he was in every scene and was the focus of everything that happened. The entire worldview is specific to whatever is going on with him in his mind. It is why the audience doesnt know what is real and what is not because neither does he.
Kep,
The Waynes being dicks was awesome. Not cause I think they are, but from the perspective or Fleck they would be just that awful...a symptom of the disease that has infested Gotham and destroy Arthur's mother and him. The scene in the bathroom is the perfect microcosm of the entire film.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
The Waynes being dicks was awesome. Not cause I think they are, but from the perspective or Fleck they would be just that awful...a symptom of the disease that has infested Gotham and destroy Arthur's mother and him. The scene in the bathroom is the perfect microcosm of the entire film.
Exactly.
There has always been a bitter taste of fascism at the heart of Batman (in the way that there is an innocent American goodness at the heart of Superman).
The Patriot Act and the Forever Wars and America 2001-20 was Batman. F-ck that right wing noise.
FWIW usually in the future Batman becomes a form of Fascist. He is never able to stop himself from going too far. What's sad is people seem to love that...
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
FWIW usually in the future Batman becomes a form of Fascist. He is never able to stop himself from going too far. What's sad is people seem to love that...
Do they like the actions he's taking or the idea that he's a flawed person trying to do right by the world? I've never read any Batman comics, or what others think of him. All that I know of him comes from the movies and TV shows.
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
Do they like the actions he's taking or the idea that he's a flawed person trying to do right by the world? I've never read any Batman comics, or what others think of him. All that I know of him comes from the movies and TV shows.
They love that he becomes the "My Way or the Highway" type character. That is where all the crap about Batman fighting Superman comes from...The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. It is years in the future and Batman has retired and Gotham falls into disrepair. Batman comes back into action and basically turns the knob to 11. Superman is dispatched by the White House (cause he is apparently a Government lackey) to talk him down but inevitably Batman goes full derp and they fight to the the death.
I should mention this is one of the most beloved comics that exists and I absolutely hate it because Frank Miller is a misogynistic twat who fundamentally doesn't understand Superman and thinks Batman is cool because he is like dark and brooding. That version of Batman and Superman has basically persisted since the early 1980s and lead to Batman becoming one of the 2 most popular characters in the world. (it is usually between him and Spidey) I hate it though. I mean at one point in the comics (Tower of Babel story) Batman gets kicked out of the Justice League because he creates contingency plans to defeat every member and they get highjacked and almost destroy the league. (they do this in the Justice League cartoon as well kind of) To me that level of paranoia is everything I hate about the character but to the masses that is what they love. It is why the comic Batman is the one indexes use to see the health of the industry his sales are almost always the same month to month without fail. No other comic is like that even Spiderman.
The future is never very bright for Batman even in the cartoons. I mean in Batman Beyond (which is a personal fave) Bruce Wayne is a d-bag until Terry shows up and still is for quite a while. Batman always ends up cut off from everyone. Dick Grayson usually cuts him out of his life, Gordon dies, Batgirl is paralyzed (cause Alan Moore is an awful human) and other Robins end up dead. He cuts the Justice League out as well. Bruce becomes isolated and alone and loses the battle within himself. The best versions of Batman in any medium is a struggle between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Batman is the fascist side willing to do anything to stop criminals and protect Gotham and Bruce Wayne is the philanthropic son of the Waynes who is just trying to live a semi normal life and make sure other kids dont have to go through what he did. In the future Batman always wins to the point that Bruce Wayne often is rarely seen. (kind of like in The Dark Knight Rises)
(I worked in a comic shop and this stuff was discussed a lot!)
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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