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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    I can't see this being called an underrated role. It is Stewart's signature character (granted, he's usually the exact same guy) and well celebrated.

    I would call Hitchcock's casting of Stewart for that role the brilliant move. It's as if Stewart practices in every other movie for that one perfect role. All the rest of his portrayals of this character, even the great ones (Wonderful Life, Liberty Valance, Rear Window) are cloying but in Vertigo his off-centered aloofness is ideal.

    Every time I see Vertigo I am more impressed with Hitchcock. It's a masterpiece. It's the greatest art house film made by an American studio, and it is deeply subversive in that 99% of the people who see it are consciously unaware of what it is doing and yet it reaches them unconsciously.
    I might be out of the mix but it seems to me that this role is rarely mentioned in the same breath as some of those with most notoriety.

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    • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

      I might be out of the mix but it seems to me that this role is rarely mentioned in the same breath as some of those with most notoriety.
      If you are comparing it to say Bogey in Casablanca, then yeah. But it is in that second tier -- Bogey in The Big Sleep. It's not an obscure or underrated role, IMO.

      Stewart is hard, too, because all his roles run together. He's just not a very good actor, which is why Vertigo is so wonderful -- it's made for him. Hitch is excellent at doing that -- Grant in North by Northwest, Peck in Spellbound, Cotten in Shadow of a Doubt, Fontaine in Rebecca, Bankhead in Lifeboat. Every one of those roles has to be that actor -- it wouldn't work with anyone else. The scene in Rebecca where Fontaine breaks the figurine and shoves it in her desk -- for my money the single greatest moment in any Hitchcock movie, as it communicates what hours of scene setting and dialog could only approximate and in a way that stabs you in the heart and puts you completely in her corner for the rest of the film -- would never have worked with any other actress. Imagine how unconvincing and manipulative it would have been for Kelly or Bergman (and how laughably unbelievable for Novak).
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      • Black Widow was very good. Top 5 Marvel I'd have to say. Stay for the end credits. Especially if you've stayed current with the TV Shows.
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        • I would watch this.

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            • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
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              • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                You're excited? Feel these nipples?
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                • Chinatown. Saw it for the fourth time. It's going to become one of my favorite movies eventually -- it has grown every time and I can even stand Dunaway in it now. The minor cast carries it, and of course the beautiful aesthetics.

                  TIL (spoiler): Polanski rewrote the ending which had been happy. What a great decision. The score was rewritten, recorded, and added to the film in the last 11 days before national release.

                  Get Carter. This is one of the most rancid movies I have ever seen. It's so wonderfully gross and Caine is striking and so cold. Hard to remember that Michael Caine was a very good actor about 40 years ago before he made nothing but crap.

                  Deadpool 2. Meh. More of the same. Reynolds is charming, the Winter Soldier was cool, the bartender dude was funny, everything else pedestrian.
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                  • HBO's Woodstock '99 doc drops tonight. Looking forward to watching it tomorrow...

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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Deadpool 2. Meh. More of the same. Reynolds is charming, the Winter Soldier was cool, the bartender dude was funny, everything else pedestrian.
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                      • I have the Blu-ray for Once Upon a Deadpool, but I haven’t had the chance to watch it yet. I think that will be my Tuesday night movie.
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                        • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                          Sorry, is that not who Cable is?

                          I don't follow kids shows closely.
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                          • "I Care A Lot" on Netflix. Worth a look.
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                            • I can't watch Ace Ventura: Pet Detective any more.

                              Yes, I know for 1995, it seemed appropriate, but in 2021 and where I am now, it's "cringe," as the kids would say.
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                              • There are a lot of things like that now. That 70's Show gets cringier by the minute, which I suppose was destined to happen by the mere nature of the show.

                                Everything Barney said in How I Met Your Mother was cringe ten seconds after he said it.
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