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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    I see even you won't defend Short Round.

    5 minutes on Google. I can't tell if that was the joke or if you just hit the greatest long shot in history.
    Everything is a ripoff if you go back far enough. You're the one who posted way back when about how there are only 5 story plots and everything is just a riff on one of those.

    Star Wars was definitely an homage to old movie serials, and Indy is clearly the same with the various set pieces. But doesn't change the fact that no one cares because they're entertaining movies.

    It's the "Magnificent Seven is worse than the original Seven Samurai" argument writ large. It's only said to claim film snob credit.


    and as far as Last Crusade goes:

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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

        The rest is worse.

        Darlin'.
        Really? If nothing else, we got this classic line:

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          • To be fair, yes, that is a good line. I like the Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS character, too.

            Ok, maybe it's not so bad.
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            • Originally posted by unofan View Post
              It's the "Magnificent Seven is worse than the original Seven Samurai" argument writ large. It's only said to claim film snob credit.
              Shelley Long nailed this in Cheers.

              But worse than that, it's wrong. Magnificent Seven is incomparably better than Seven Samurai, which I have never managed to stay awake through. The better example is Yojimbo / A Fistful of Dollars as they're the same level of awesome.

              BUT I AM NOT MAKING THAT ARGUMENT HERE. I was congratulating you for accurately predicting that somebody really did make that argument about Raiders. I was making peace, you boob.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                Shelley Long nailed this in Cheers.

                But worse than that, it's wrong. Magnificent Seven is incomparably better than Seven Samurai, which I have never managed to stay awake through. The better example is Yojimbo / A Fistful of Dollars as they're the same level of awesome.

                BUT I AM NOT MAKING THAT ARGUMENT HERE. I was congratulating you for accurately predicting that somebody really did make that argument about Raiders. I was making peace, you boob.
                Sorry, I thought you were adopting it as your own.

                The 1930s European part was the reach, fyi. The "obscure serial" part was not (because, again, you could probably make that argument about anything).

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                • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                  Sorry, I thought you were adopting it as your own.

                  The 1930s European part was the reach, fyi. The "obscure serial" part was not (because, again, you could probably make that argument about anything).
                  Though TBH that video is hilarious in how it notes SS stole it shot for shot.

                  But, as you say, it doesn't matter because it is a perfect first scene. Best first scene in any action movie? Once Upon a Time in the West is the one challenger that jumped to mind, but that's wistful, like Casino Royale. I can't think of a better action opening. I remember thinking when I saw The Spy Who Loved Me that I was seeing something special.
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                  • So A Few Good Men was on tonight. Missed the opening, but caught it about a half hour in.

                    Yes, it was edited for basic cable, but seeing as its my Roadhouse, i still know most the lines by heart.

                    Jack Nicholson argued the masculinity (or lack there of) of Tom Cruise's crisp white uniform.


                    Despite being edited, I had a sudden realization that films with language spoken freely like that will become our generations Song of the South.

                    It's still the second best courtroom drama on film, only just short of Anatomy of a Murder. But that's my opinion only.
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                      • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
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                        • I'm pretty sure he meant that for courtroom film. I completely forgot about it, especially Marisa Tomei's performance.

                          Okay, so a Mount Rushmore of Courtroom films:
                          Anatomy of a Murder, A Few Good Men, My Cousin Vinny, and ???.




                          As for another our generation Song of the South... True Romance? Or will lines like "******* white uniforms," or "Sicilians were spawned by *******," just be ignored letting the rest of the film stand on its own where Song of the South was quietly put to death because of its entirety?
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                          • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                            Okay, so a Mount Rushmore of Courtroom films:
                            Anatomy of a Murder, A Few Good Men, My Cousin Vinny, and ???.
                            Mount Rushmore:
                            • Anatomy of a Murder
                            • To Kill a Mockingbird
                            • Inherit the Wind
                            • My Cousin Vinny
                            Honorable Mention:
                            • This Youtube video, maybe the best I have ever seen
                            • The Paradine Case
                            • The Verdict
                            • Miracle on 34th Street
                            • Animal House
                            I assume 12 Angry Men doesn't count.



                            Last edited by Kepler; 12-10-2022, 11:57 AM.
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                            • Inherit the Wind is criminally forgotten these days (we watched it in 7th grade science!) and I love The Verdict!

                              My Cousin Vinny is hilarious :^)

                              A Few Good Men is Me"Shawshank" for me to aparch!
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                              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                                Mount Rushmore:
                                • Anatomy of a Murder
                                • To Kill a Mockingbird
                                • Inherit the Wind
                                • My Cousin Vinny
                                Honorable Mention:
                                • This Youtube video, maybe the best I have ever seen
                                • The Paradine Case
                                • The Verdict
                                • Miracle on 34th Street
                                • Animal House
                                I assume 12 Angry Men doesn't count.


                                12 Angry Men only has something like 5 minutes in the courtroom, the rest in that jury room. Both versions of that movie are very well done.

                                A Time to Kill? It’s the first time Matthew McCon..allamadingdong actually acted in any of his films. And a solid display of overt racism in court proceedings, which had been largely avoided around the time it was released.
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