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  • If you aren't rooting for Buffalo I have one question, why do you hate America? ;-)
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    • Anyone but GB and BUF.

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      • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
        Anyone but Brady.
        Fixed.
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          • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
            Probably an unpopular opinion but, the "fumble out of the end zone results in a touchback" rule is one of the dumbest in all of sports. It's like a slap shot being deflected out of the rink by the goalie resulting in a delay of game penalty on you.
            Thinking about it some, and seeing the highlight (missed it during the game- went on a walk)....

            Yes, bad rule.

            However, it's been a rule for a very, very long time. And this is not even near the first time a player took a risk to score a TD when they didn't need to and lost the ball. Should rail on whoever it was who stretched out when players were all around him. Dive, and let the ball be downed on the 1. Then you have 3 chances to score before dealing with 3 points.

            Given how many times this has happened in the past, I don't expect players to really learn it, but they do need to learn it.

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            • Always hated that rule.
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              • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

                Thinking about it some, and seeing the highlight (missed it during the game- went on a walk)....

                Yes, bad rule.

                However, it's been a rule for a very, very long time. And this is not even near the first time a player took a risk to score a TD when they didn't need to and lost the ball. Should rail on whoever it was who stretched out when players were all around him. Dive, and let the ball be downed on the 1. Then you have 3 chances to score before dealing with 3 points.

                Given how many times this has happened in the past, I don't expect players to really learn it, but they do need to learn it.
                Proposed fix: there should be some "punishment" for taking a ridiculous risk to score a TD (first rule: protect the ball), so how about a "reverse touchback," where the offense retains the ball but gets it 1st and 10 on the opponent's 20? The right play is still to down the ball at at the 1, but the punishment for not doing so is 19 yards of field position, not losing the ball entirely.

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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Always hated that rule.
                  Yeah, it’s utterly ridiculous when compared to similar situations in other sports. It’s ultimate stupidity is that it encourages players to not try to score.

                  I’ll say it again: It’s the dumbest rule in sports, and I say this as a soccer referee who has to interpret some pretty dumb rules.
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                  • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                    Yeah, it’s utterly ridiculous when compared to similar situations in other sports. It’s ultimate stupidity is that it encourages players to not try to score.

                    I’ll say it again: It’s the dumbest rule in sports, and I say this as a soccer referee who has to interpret some pretty dumb rules.
                    What is the dumbest rule in soccer?
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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                      What is the dumbest rule in soccer?
                      Probably the new handball rules. I don’t want to explain here because it’d take many paragraphs but, they wanted to “clearly define” things and just made things more confusing.
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                      Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                      But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                      Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                      Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                      • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                        Yeah, it’s utterly ridiculous when compared to similar situations in other sports. It’s ultimate stupidity is that it encourages players to not try to score.

                        I’ll say it again: It’s the dumbest rule in sports, and I say this as a soccer referee who has to interpret some pretty dumb rules.
                        If that was true, the fact that it's called reasonably often would not come up.

                        Yes, it's a dumb rule.

                        But it's been a rule for a long time, so if a player wants to risk losing the ball via turn over, they should know better. If players want to ignore the risk of the current rule, it's their known risk.

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                        • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                          Probably the new handball rules. I don’t want to explain here because it’d take many paragraphs but, they wanted to “clearly define” things and just made things more confusing.
                          I think of handball as:

                          1) contact
                          2) intent
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                          • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                            It’s ultimate stupidity is that it encourages players to not try to score.
                            No it doesn't, it just makes sure you do so in a way where you have control. You're welcome to try to score dangerously, but you don't get free reign if you get close and lose control, nor should you. You're also welcome to fling the ball downfield every play, but the fact that you might get intercepted a lot discourages you from doing that (unless you're Rex Grossman). We don't claim allowing the defense to intercept the ball encourages someone not to score.

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                            • Other sports have similar penalties for offensive actions, it's just the risk/reward isn't as high as the endzone fumble is in football. In basketball if you air ball a free throw, it goes to the other team. In baseball, if you bunt foul with two strikes, you're out. In hockey, depending on the league, if you shoot it out of play the face-off moves back to the neutral zone.

                              I think the bigger issue on this play is that the helmet-to-helmet was missed.
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                              • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

                                No it doesn't, it just makes sure you do so in a way where you have control. You're welcome to try to score dangerously, but you don't get free reign if you get close and lose control, nor should you. You're also welcome to fling the ball downfield every play, but the fact that you might get intercepted a lot discourages you from doing that (unless you're Rex Grossman). We don't claim allowing the defense to intercept the ball encourages someone not to score.
                                Except on an interception the other team actually has to do something which is a risk on their part, catch the d- ball. In this situation the defense benefits because of the situation, if the ball goes out at the 1 yard line they don't get the ball but if it goes out a yard further they not only get the ball but they get it up field.
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                                Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                                But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                                Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                                Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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