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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    For anything under 400m you’re not running the full track so it’s possible for the entire race to be in headwind or tailwind. Same with the run up for the long jump and triple jump.
    That makes sense.

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    No, we'd just have X.XXX seconds, full stop. Just like an auto race where you assess penalties.

    I have a dumb question about wind aided. Wouldn't wind be a wash? The course is biaxially symmetrical -- so anything you pick up at x you lose at pi minus x. So why does it matter? Or is it varying winds that matter?
    Anything with full laps, you're correct.

    The 100, 200, 110 hurdles, long jump, triple jump, javelin, etc. are straight or nearly straight runs, so the wind affects them.

    And wind aided doesn't nullify an attempt/race in terms of placement, it just prevents the setting of official new records if the wind is too strong in their favor.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    No, we'd just have X.XXX seconds, full stop. Just like an auto race where you assess penalties.

    I have a dumb question about wind aided. Wouldn't wind be a wash? The course is biaxially symmetrical -- so anything you pick up at x you lose at pi minus x. So why does it matter? Or is it varying winds that matter?
    For anything under 400m you’re not running the full track so it’s possible for the entire race to be in headwind or tailwind. Same with the run up for the long jump and triple jump.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    But then we'd have race results of "X.XXX seconds including YY milliseconds of early start penalty*".
    No, we'd just have X.XXX seconds, full stop. Just like an auto race where you assess penalties.

    I have a dumb question about wind aided. Wouldn't wind be a wash? The course is biaxially symmetrical -- so anything you pick up at x you lose at pi minus x. So why does it matter? Or is it varying winds that matter?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I'm surprised they don't have the technology ...
    We have the tech or else folks wouldn't DQ on 0.001 seconds.

    But then we'd have race results of "X.XXX seconds including YY milliseconds of early start penalty*".



    *wind aided <-- I always love that one. :-)


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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

    Didn't say it was great, but it'd get rid of silly "false start" DQs.
    I'm surprised they don't have the technology to instantly post the penalty per runner and then just let them run. Let's say you get penalized 5x the amount of time you go early. So if you go .00001 whatevs, but if you go .1 you've blown the race.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Yuck. That seems like throwing away the race in order to rationalize the records. Gross.
    Didn't say it was great, but it'd get rid of silly "false start" DQs.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

    They'd run solo (against the clock) with the option to run with a human "pacer" or "rabbit" beside them.

    Yes, it'd change the nature of the competition in the sprints.
    Yuck. That seems like throwing away the race in order to rationalize the records. Gross.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Unless I'm being dumb that's the difference between doing a solo run and running against others. Right? Or am I misunderstanding you?
    They'd run solo (against the clock) with the option to run with a human "pacer" or "rabbit" beside them.

    Yes, it'd change the nature of the competition in the sprints.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Why not just run against the clock like downhill skiing?



    Impossible to "jump early" because you break beam to start timing and break beam to end it.

    If you choose to run with/against a "rabbit" of your choosing, allowed.
    Unless I'm being dumb that's the difference between doing a solo run and running against others. Right? Or am I misunderstanding you?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Why not just run against the clock like downhill skiing?

    According to the International Ski Federation (FIS) rules for ski competition, the beeps are a countdown to the start signal, but as long as the athlete starts within five seconds before or after that time, the start is considered valid.
    Impossible to "jump early" because you break beam to start timing and break beam to end it.

    If you choose to run with/against a "rabbit" of your choosing, allowed.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
    Yeah if someone wants to guess the gun and risk getting DQed if they go before it, let them.
    Exactly. We have a punishment in place already for this. Single jump DQ is a pretty severe punishment, unlike in short track speed skating where the field gets a warning then the next person who jumps is DQed.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
    Yeah if someone wants to guess the gun and risk getting DQed if they go before it, let them.
    This.

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  • French Rage
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    Yeah if someone wants to guess the gun and risk getting DQed if they go before it, let them.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    No clue if we have a track thread, but since this also involves an NFL player I’ll throw it here.

    Devon Allen of the Eagles was in the finals of the 110m hurdles. He was disqualified for leaving the blocks early. Not before the gun, but at .099 seconds after it. In track, to assume you aren’t anticipating the gun, you can’t “react” quicker than .1 seconds after the gun. That rule is in place despite World Athletics doing their own study that found people can react in .085, but they kept the .1 rule.

    https://twitter.com/nbcolympics/stat...G4w5Au5fs496zQ

    https://twitter.com/rgiii/status/154...G4w5Au5fs496zQ
    There were two similar DQs in the Womens 100m semifinals as well.

    It was really lame.

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