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  • Originally posted by unofan View Post

    And the OPI missed call was somewhat just based on how it occurred. The only official that had a chance at a good line of sight on it was the back judge, and depending on who his primary responsibility was before the pass, he may not have been in great position to see it either. The side judge who was closest wouldn't have seen it without xray vision, and ditto the line judge behind the play.
    Not sure how it was just missed like that, the receiver reached back and forward, defender goes the direction of his arms, then he reaches back catches the ball and runs. With the defender on the ground. It wasn't as if he just lost his footing. The addition of his head turning around in an unnatural direction was just icing on the cake.

    There were more than the one ref on the field, and more than one could have called that.

    In the end, it was good that the missed call didn't win the game.

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    • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

      Not sure how it was just missed like that, the receiver reached back and forward, defender goes the direction of his arms, then he reaches back catches the ball and runs. With the defender on the ground. It wasn't as if he just lost his footing. The addition of his head turning around in an unnatural direction was just icing on the cake.

      There were more than the one ref on the field, and more than one could have called that.

      In the end, it was good that the missed call didn't win the game.
      ... you can't call a penalty you don't see. As I explained, given the way it occurred, only 1 official could've reasonably been expected to see the tug on the face mask - the back judge. And he's on the far hashmarks looking over his shoulder. You can argue he should've been closer, but my guess is his primary duty prior to the pass was to watch for holding on the guy cutting across the middle going towards the far side.

      The side judge was in decent position but couldn't have seen the face mask since the receiver's body was in the way. The line judge was 30 yards behind the play and no way he sees it. The side judge on the far side had 5 people between him and the ball, and again he had other primary responsibilities to be looking at.
      Last edited by unofan; 02-14-2022, 12:24 PM.

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      • OBJ with a torn ACL.
        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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        • Originally posted by unofan View Post

          Pretty much all major sporting events are geared towards the TV audiences these days, the live crowd is just a prop for the tv broadcast. I've been saying for years at some point they'll finally cross the line and people will stop going to live sports.
          Many years ago, Bernie Ecclestone, who was the Boss (with a capital "B") of Formula 1, said his dream event was nobody showing up in person while having the whole world watch the race on TV.

          He knew the live audience wasn't where the money was. It was the TV audience that brought in the real money.
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          • Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

            Many years ago, Bernie Ecclestone, who was the Boss (with a capital "B") of Formula 1, said his dream event was nobody showing up in person while having the whole world watch the race on TV.

            He knew the live audience wasn't where the money was. It was the TV audience that brought in the real money.
            MLB is almost there.
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            • Originally posted by rufus View Post
              OBJ with a torn ACL.
              Out for the remainder of the season.
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              • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                ... you can't call a penalty you don't see. As I explained, given the way it occurred, only 1 official could've reasonably been expected to see the tug on the face mask - the back judge. And he's on the far hashmarks looking over his shoulder. You can argue he should've been closer, but my guess is his primary duty prior to the pass was to watch for holding on the guy cutting across the middle going towards the far side.

                The side judge was in decent position but couldn't have seen the face mask since the receiver's body was in the way. The line judge was 30 yards behind the play and no way he sees it. The side judge on the far side had 5 people between him and the ball, and again he had other primary responsibilities to be looking at.
                It was still OPI. Missed or not, it was pretty darned obvious that something was up when the best 1:1 defender went down like that. Maybe I have different expectations, but this was the ONLY NFL game played Sunday, right? So they could put the best of the best refs in place? Meaning that there were multiple eyes that should have seen the play.

                As far as I am concerned, the questionable holding call was fine because of that. The missed call gave Cincy 6 points, the Rams still had to put the ball into the end zone- so Cincy still had a chance to prevent that.

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                • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                  ... you can't call a penalty you don't see. As I explained, given the way it occurred, only 1 official could've reasonably been expected to see the tug on the face mask - the back judge. And he's on the far hashmarks looking over his shoulder. You can argue he should've been closer, but my guess is his primary duty prior to the pass was to watch for holding on the guy cutting across the middle going towards the far side.

                  The side judge was in decent position but couldn't have seen the face mask since the receiver's body was in the way. The line judge was 30 yards behind the play and no way he sees it. The side judge on the far side had 5 people between him and the ball, and again he had other primary responsibilities to be looking at.
                  Why don’t they just review scoring plays for potential penalties by the offense? If fucking soccer can do it then surely the NFL can right?
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                  • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                    Why don’t they just review scoring plays for potential penalties by the offense? If fucking soccer can do it then surely the NFL can right?
                    Because no one wants to watch a 5-hour game?

                    While my interest in football was already waining, I will forever remember a Colorado-Kansas game in Boulder and at least 3 times there was a clear touchdown, like patently obvious, and they stopped the game for a review just to confirm nothing happened. I left at the end of the 3rd quarter and it was already well over 3:30 hours since kickoff. Review in football already makes the games tedious, I can't imagine adding in that many more.

                    If they want to add the ability to challenge penalty calls/non-calls, I'm fine with that.

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                    • They should have review... but keep the clock running.

                      I've always thought football should just run the clock from opening kickoff. 60 minutes game time, 60 minutes run time.
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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                        MLB is almost there.
                        People watch that boring crap on TV??
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                        • Originally posted by walrus View Post

                          People watch that boring crap on TV??
                          Fair point.
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                          • How exciting for all of the Rams' fan: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-bowl/2825390/

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                            • Aaron Rogan resigns with GB, 4 yrs $200 mil; $153 mil guaranteed.
                              A bad cause requires many words.

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                              • Originally posted by SonofSouthie View Post
                                Aaron Rogan resigns with GB, 4 yrs $200 mil; $153 mil guaranteed.
                                Bad for Chicago. Good for the NFL elite- as I don't see a path where GB actually competes for a SB. Blowing the entire budget on one guy makes it impossible to assemble a total team.

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