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**Slap Shot** · 12-23-2021, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Kepler View Post

Really?

That seems... kind of combative towards music. :-)

I can think of very few artists I've hated, and then not for musical reasons. The fans, now. Different story.

I didn't say I hate anyone IN TOTAL, although your statement is pretty comical considering your history of 'hate' towards the Beatles and REM.

I hated when The Cure released Mixed Up, I hated REM for Shiny Happy People, I hated the Stones for pretty much everything after Tattoo You, etc.

To be fair again 'hate' is used pretty loosely here because I don't know that I would say I actually HATE the aforementioned.

btw if you and I ever had a sit down together I guarantee I could change your mind on The Beatles.

**MissThundercat** · 12-23-2021, 05:04 PM

I don't hate the Beatles. More like I don't think they're the world's greatest band ever.

**Slap Shot** · 12-23-2021, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post

I don't hate the Beatles. More like I don't think they're the world's greatest band ever.

The Beatles are the greatest band of all time and it's not even up for debate. Ingenuity, influence, innovation, popularity. cultural influences and sales as a whole are not even remotely touched. It's freaking indisputable regardless of one's personal tastes. Listen from Rubber Soul through Abbey Road song for song and come back and tell me you're not impressed by the variety, melody, harmony, grit, lack of repetition, the joy and love they invoke. Seriously people that only know them by the radio are missing out.

Enter, "Beatles influence" in the search bar of YouTube and come back after a few hours. Dave Grohl of all people cites the Beatles and particularly Ringo as being massively influential on him. Listen to composer Howard Goodall express his admiration for their work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBCAyTU-sYA

“In 2003 an article by The Independent explained that a third of all Beatles records are being bought people under the age 24 despite the fact the group split up before these people were even born."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCmLtxJCkeM

If Bob Dylan of all people is saying they were doing things that no one else was doing and Jimmy Page is saying people like him wouldn't be around without them? "I think the Beatles are the reason I'm a musician" - Sting. Joe Perry said they were cool, Kurt Vonnegut, Alice Cooper, Gene Simmons, Brian Wilson said, "Sgt. Peppers is probably the greatest album I've ever heard", Tommy Hilfiger talks about their influence on fashion, Brian May, Joe Walsh, Robin Gibb, Keith Richards...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL4AAH1ua8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkCJcbeeTE4

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-influence-the-beatles

https://www.billboard.com/music/the-beatles/chart-history/top-album-sales

Sgt. Peppers reached #1 on Billboard albums sales in 2017, the White Album #3 in 2018, Live at the Hollywood Bowl #4 in 2016, Live at the BBC:2 # 7 in 2013, Abbey Road #29 this year...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2018/01/05/even-in-2017-the-beatles-dominate-the-bestselling-vinyl-albums-list/#4bd8457433a6

Even In 2017, The Beatles Dominate The Bestselling Vinyl Albums List

https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...ata-age-groups

“OK, the generation-spanning love for the Fab Four is nothing shocking, but just how popular the Beatles have proven to be in the streaming realm might surprise you. In less than a month, the Beatles racked up over 250 million streams on Spotify. But among those quarter-of-a-million plays, who is listening to what?

Today, Spotify helpfully shared an assortment of data pertaining to the Beatles and Spotify listeners. According to the premier music streaming service, 79 percent of listeners were born after the band broke up in 1970.”

Like them or not their place is undeniable and if you write them off without a deep dive you're seriously missing out. Nothing invokes more emotion and joy than when I listen to them.

**Slap Shot** · 12-23-2021, 11:16 PM

**Slap Shot** · 12-23-2021, 11:17 PM

**Slap Shot** · 12-24-2021, 06:53 AM

ffs they went from I Want To Hold Your Hand to Helter Skelter in 4 years and wrote half of Abbey Road while recording Let It Be.

This is just one freaking fourth of the band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdcS...Q-JTTa&index=2

And by the way they accomplished all that they did before the age of 30. :mind blown:

**walrus** · 12-24-2021, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

ffs they went from I Want To Hold Your Hand to Helter Skelter in 4 years and wrote half of Abbey Road while recording Let It Be.

This is just one freaking fourth of the band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdcS...Q-JTTa&index=2

And by the way they accomplished all that they did before the age of 30. :mind blown:

I started watching some of the other videos from that concert, freakin' awesome. I'm not old enough to have grown up with the beatles but my brothers were and I was exposed at a young age. They changed music, thats for sure.

**walrus** · 12-25-2021, 05:11 PM

Started watching Get back today, wow.. Creative genius on display

**Slap Shot** · 12-25-2021, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by walrus View Post

Started watching Get back today, wow.. Creative genius on display

It's breathtaking. At one point Paul creates (Get Back?) out of thin air while playing his bass like a guitar. John once they move to Abbey Road shows his creative genius each time he comes into the studio, they write half of Abbey Road at the same time they are recording Let it Be, and then George has nearly a complete triple album All Things Must Pass in his back pocket. It's just stunning.

**Slap Shot** · 12-30-2021, 08:53 PM

I've been on an album kick the past few days:

LCD Soundsystem - American Dream
Mattew Sweet - 100% Fun
Fanny - First Time in a Long Time
Paul Weller - Wild Wood
The Heavy - The House That Dirt Built
RHCP - The Uplift Mofo Party Plan
AIC - Jar of Flies
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
The Yardbirds - Roger the Engineer
Tab Benoit - These Blues are all Mine
Flamingosis - Bright Moments
Supertramp - Breakfast in America
Freddie King - Texas Cannonball

**Kepler** · 01-03-2022, 11:40 AM

Reverse cultural appropriation: the song Chuck Berry copied for "Maybellene."

**Kepler** · 01-04-2022, 09:15 PM

I can't tell whether Style Council is great or awful. They aren't anything in the middle.

(It's probably that they're awful but **** it I have fond memories.)

**Slap Shot** · 01-06-2022, 11:40 AM

Delvon Lamar Organ Trio – Pull Your Pants Up
Little Feat – Fat Man in the Bathtub
The Band – Don’t Do It
Faces – Flying
Spoon – The Fitted Shirt
John Cale – Hello, There
The Dandy Warhols – Catcher in the Rye
Johnny Jenkins – I Walk on Guilded Splinters
Jame Gang – Stop
Boz Scaggs – I’m Easy
Bill Callahan – Diamond Dancer
Mick Ronson – Only After Dark

**Kepler** · 01-06-2022, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

John Cale – Hello, There

Songs like this are why it doesn't matter John Cale is such an as-shole.

**Slap Shot** · 01-06-2022, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Kepler View Post

Songs like this are why it doesn't matter John Cale is such an as-shole.

I honestly am not aware of his backstory - only that he was a suggested listen on Spotify for me many moons ago and really enjoy listening to him.

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