USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

[dxmnkd316]

It is public data though, right? He's creepy but is he doing anything illegal?

With a raspberry pi and a software defined radio (sdr) dongle, you too can track any plane within line of sight.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Meh, Chapman’s version is apparently #1 on the iTunes chart right now and looks to be charting again on the Billboard ones so there’s a new appreciation it seems l. Anecdotally, my teenage daughter is listening to it and has said she detests the Combs version but loves Chapman’s version so… *shrug*.

In the end, Chapman’s version is being appreciated as it should and she’s making money. If some country idiots completely miss the point of the original who cares? I think “bless your heart” is a good response.

Oh I def don’t care, I think it’s hilarious which is why I posted about it in the first place.

I knew it would all lead to some new people discovering her version so that’s the best part.

[Jimjamesak]

Just adds to the overall incredulity I have that it’s so recently popular. Gay black woman writing lyrics about struggle isn’t generally the fav on that genre but I’m guessing many don’t really listen to lyrics (or think new version is only version). Fast car means vroom vroom

Meh, Chapman’s version is apparently #1 on the iTunes chart right now and looks to be charting again on the Billboard ones so there’s a new appreciation it seems l. Anecdotally, my teenage daughter is listening to it and has said she detests the Combs version but loves Chapman’s version so… *shrug*.

In the end, Chapman’s version is being appreciated as it should and she’s making money. If some country idiots completely miss the point of the original who cares? I think “bless your heart” is a good response.

[Kepler]

Dolly Parton, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson are definitely exceptions and I will fight you on this. But yeah, nearly all of the modern stuff is MAGA pandering.

I'll say something that deserves to get me punched out: Dolly Parton is an American treasure and a great human being and she should replace Jackson on the twenty, but almost all of her music is awful. She suffers from Linda Ronstadt Disease: an incredible voice and persona and just swill songs.

Nelson can write a song, I'll give you that. And Cash is a GOAT, although I think his best work is Gospel.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

The fact that “Fast Car” even became a hit on the country charts is astounding, that kind of lyrical content is usually forbidden on country radio.

Just adds to the overall incredulity I have that it’s so recently popular. Gay black woman writing lyrics about struggle isn’t generally the fav on that genre but I’m guessing many don’t really listen to lyrics (or think new version is only version). Fast car means vroom vroom

[Jimjamesak]

The fact that “Fast Car” even became a hit on the country charts is astounding, that kind of lyrical content is usually forbidden on country radio.

[Jimjamesak]

Some country music before 1960 is actually good.

The genre is almost all f-cking horrible slack-jawed drool, fit for the infantile mentality of the holler or the pew. But there's a couple exceptions.

Dolly Parton, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson are definitely exceptions and I will fight you on this. But yeah, nearly all of the modern stuff is MAGA pandering.

[Kepler]

all country is worthless

Some country music before 1960 is actually good.

The genre is almost all f-cking horrible slack-jawed drool, fit for the infantile mentality of the holler or the pew. But there's a couple exceptions.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Eh, cool, I just don’t like his version.

all country is worthless, but at least he allowed her full writing credit by not changing a word so he’s not a jerk.

[Jimjamesak]

I’ll try to find it. Was a rabbit hole I found from someone on socials who was incredulous that some idiot (honestly can’t remember who) was remarking how Tracy was making money off the new version, like she owed him something and it went from there. Guy also said she ruined the song with her live version. *****, the reason that song rocked is because of her unique voice and the persona and the lyrics- doesn’t quite hit the same with the male country star farting out the words. It sounds like every other ****kicker pathetic country tune

I will say that I respectfully disagree with this take about Combs’ version. It’s pretty obvious that the cover was done with a great deal of respect for Chapman, to the point he never changed the gendered lyrics, and it is perfectly cromulent even with his twangy vocals, no where near the point of “ruining” the song. And honestly, a song like “Fast Car” being at the top of not only the country music charts but the music charts in general is a vast improvement over BS like “Try That In A Small Town” or whatever other panderin’ crap Nashville churns out.

Now, the country a-hats who are freaking out over a black, queer woman being praised and having her talent rewarded by having a new generation of people enjoy her music? Well, f- them.

[Kepler]

I think I understand some of the references:

• "If I can shoot rabbits / I can shoot fascists" -- the perennial slogan for farm boys who become guerillas
• "Monuments put from pen to paper / Turns me into a gutless wonder" -- leaving your resistance effort in a comment section instead of doing real work
• "If you tolerate this, your children will be next" -- "First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist..."
• "Gravity keeps my head down" -- the German V2s falling on London while civilians cower in the tube in Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow; the lethal danger of the Right always comes down to war and death
• "I've walked Las Ramblas / But not with real intent" -- the emptiness of radical chic. Las Ramblas is a street where Barcelonan separatists fought Franco's goons, but the singer is strolling down it as political slumming
• "And on the street tonight an old man plays / With newspaper cuttings of his glory days" -- a final warning the fascists we just barely beat in the 1940s never went away. They will always lurk, and we can't rest on our laurels. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

End the Right
Save the world

[Slap Shot]

The first time I heard this song (and the band at the same time) I had just become a father. I didn't immediately pick up on the historical/literary references but it was powerful enough on its own to really punch me in the gut upon first listen. One of the rare songs that gets better over time especially with its message. Really, really resonates in 2024. Also an example of how the UK has some musical treasures that the U.S. completely missed out on.

Kep I'll be insulted if you don't give this one a try.

The future teaches you to be alone
The present to be afraid and cold
So if I can shoot rabbits
Then I can shoot fascists

Bullets for your brain today
But well forget it all again
Monuments put from pen to paper
Turns me into a gutless wonder

And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
Will be next

Gravity keeps my head down
Or is it maybe shame
At being so young and being so vain

Holes in your head today
But Im a pacifist
Ive walked La Ramblas
But not with real intent

And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
Will be next

Will be next
And on the street tonight an old man plays
With newspaper cuttings of his glory days

And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this
Then your children will be next
Will be next

[state of hockey]

Oh man, I can already see the “I was liberal but stopped when people questioned MY actions” headlines now.

[burd]

Who cares?

if she needs to live a lifestyle where she has to criss cross the country every week, she can get dragged. Too bad if her feelings get hurt.

I surely have no problem with her getting dragged over it.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

My issue is that she’s been lending it out like a taxi to others, and flying them around empty. She flies to nyc weekly for dinner with her friends and then often back to kc. It’s not like she’s using them just to tour.

I see, so you're saying she actually purchased a plane for jetsetting whenever she feels in the mood. It'd be one thing if she owned or chartered a jet for the sake of tour logistics, but I agree that with all we know about climate change it's pretty 'Limousine Liberal' to be flying to dinner or whatever on a whim. Reminds me of the stories of the ultra-rich flying the morning Concorde to Paris (AF002) for dinner, staying out all night partying, and then catching the next day's return 10:30am CET flight back to JFK (AF001) and arriving almost exactly 24 hours after leaving.