USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

[state of hockey]

Beck has quite a few tunes that could easily be considered country, but never are. I assumed in his case a look at his overall catalog explains it. But that doesn’t explain how rap artists here and there pull it off.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Because I was kinda surprised to learn Noah Kahan’s “Dial Drunk” has never been on the country charts despite largely sounding like a country song.

(Although it apparently topped the “Alternative”
charts)

While I don't disagree, I'd say it's probably because banjo-laced folk is outside of the Nashville mainstream at the moment, and is more the realm of coffee-sipping hipsters. Thus, the "alternative" designation.

[Kepler]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Chicken wahr.

In March, Billboard chose to pull Lil Nas X’s song from its country charts — where it had reached No. 19, and would have inevitably reached No. 1 — ostensibly for failing to embrace “enough elements of today’s country music,” while keeping it on the R&B/Hip Hop charts. More recently, many white country fans have taken to Twitter to voice their anger over Lil Nas X’s recent sponsorship deal with Wrangler jeans, a brand that has been connected with cowboy and rodeo culture since the 1940s.

Clearly, for the self-deputized gatekeepers of the country genre, Lil Nas X and his song don’t belong.

[Jimjamesak]

Ok, here’s a question that I’ve had recently: What “officially” defines a country song?

Because I was kinda surprised to learn Noah Kahan’s “Dial Drunk” has never been on the country charts despite largely sounding like a country song.

(Although it apparently topped the “Alternative”
charts)

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah even I have a problem with her use of jets.

Apparently vista jet not only flew out mechanics to Tokyo but also flew a whole second private jet there so poor little ecoterrorist can see her boyfriend

[walrus]

Band of gypsys today, forgot how great that album was

[Kepler]

That's incredible

I will say that the album recording of her captures the intimacy and vulnerability of her live performances in that station and is a triumph of production. It's a great song and her rendition is beautiful and powerful. It just wore such a groove into my brain that I can't stand to be anywhere within range of her voice.

[state of hockey]

I learned that Tracy Chapman’s voice was that of a woman and David Sedaris’ voice was that of a man within a few days of each other. What a ride that was.

[dxmnkd316]

That's incredible

[Kepler]

I was 23 the first time I heard Fast Car, in the T station at Harvard Square, through which I commuted every day. I heard one of the first public performances she ever gave of it; potentially even the first. Chapman busked there every day in the same place. She was quite popular and her case was ever overflowing. She interacted well and held the crowd.

After a few weeks, I had learned the patter and the songs got tiresome. But it went on and on and on, and is inextricably linked with early mornings, work logistics irritability, and the general grossness of Bostonians, idiocy of tourists, and stultifying feyness of Cantabridgian subway socialists (the Workers World dude was right next to her).

None of that is her fault, but I feel like I toured with Chapman for a year, and if I never hear her again I will be happy. I can't imagine how bored artists get of their own material. If I were the Stones with a 2500 song catalog, I would go entire tours never repeating the same tune.

[dxmnkd316]

Meh, Chapman’s version is apparently #1 on the iTunes chart right now and looks to be charting again on the Billboard ones so there’s a new appreciation it seems l. Anecdotally, my teenage daughter is listening to it and has said she detests the Combs version but loves Chapman’s version so… *shrug*.

In the end, Chapman’s version is being appreciated as it should and she’s making money. If some country idiots completely miss the point of the original who cares? I think “bless your heart” is a good response.

I still remember the first time I heard Fast Car. We had an old antenna TV and if I could get the antennas placed JUST right, I could get The Box channel 13 to come in (I'll bet most of you MN folks don't know we had a channel 13 back in the day)

anyways. They were playing that song a couple times a day and whenever it came on I was thinking I was hearing greatness.

[dxmnkd316]

I'll say something that deserves to get me punched out: Dolly Parton is an American treasure and a great human being and she should replace Jackson on the twenty, but almost all of her music is awful. She suffers from Linda Ronstadt Disease: an incredible voice and persona and just swill songs.

Nelson can write a song, I'll give you that. And Cash is a GOAT, although I think his best work is Gospel.

I completely agree. I can't stand her music. She's a brilliant person though.

[dxmnkd316]

Oh man, I can already see the “I was liberal but stopped when people questioned MY actions” headlines now.

Ehhh I don't think so

[dxmnkd316]

Also, if she wanted to remain private, she shouldn’t have become a literal billionaire on the back of being famous. She’s literally saying I’m gonna do what I want but I don’t want anyone to know because it invades my “privacy” well that’s her choice. She’s literally doing what Elmo did, and that’s not a position you want to be in.

Actually she can request a private transponder. Four the like of me i don't understand why she doesn't

[dxmnkd316]

My issue is that she’s been lending it out like a taxi to others, and flying them around empty. She flies to nyc weekly for dinner with her friends and then often back to kc. It’s not like she’s using them just to tour

that’s what the kid exposed and why she’s ****ed

Yeah even I have a problem with her use of jets.