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  • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

    Pearl Jam’s new single is interesting. I’m curious to hear the rest of the LP.
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    "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

    "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

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    • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

      Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
      Pearl Jam’s new single is interesting. I’m curious to hear the rest of the LP.
      Heard it on The Current (89.3 in MPLS) and IIRC it was Jade who was DJing at the time, and said it was Talking Heads-esque. I can't disagree with that. It sure doesn't sound like Pearl Jam, that's for sure. I'll have to hear it a couple more times before deciding if I really like it or not. As of right now...meh at best.
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      • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

        Assuming we're talking about Dance Of The Clairvoyants, I like it. It has some vaguely Brian Eno elements but it is far more hard rock than funk. It sounds more like Danny Elfman than David Byrne.

        They tuned their guitars major rather than minor and everybody freaked out. Grunge is dead. Leave discordance to Wagner.
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        • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

          As much fun as these guys were I never really appreciated how good they were.

          Also, Daryl Hall is way cooler than I thought.
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Assuming we're talking about Dance Of The Clairvoyants, I like it. It has some vaguely Brian Eno elements but it is far more hard rock than funk. It sounds more like Danny Elfman than David Byrne.

            They tuned their guitars major rather than minor and everybody freaked out. Grunge is dead. Leave discordance to Wagner.
            Pearl Jam was never really grunge, they just came out the same time as some other Seattle grunge bands were transitioning to more mainstream (or some formerly more hair-metal esq bands like Alice In Chains were being influenced by the grunge sound). Stone Nd Jeff were in a grunge band “Green River” before Mother Love Bone, but MLB was more glam rock influenced. The “real” grunge bands were Mudhoney, “Bleach” era Nirvana (by Nevermind they were departing from the super slow grunge sound)

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              Originally posted by BassAle View Post
              Pearl Jam was never really grunge
              This

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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                As much fun as these guys were I never really appreciated how good they were.

                Also, Daryl Hall is way cooler than I thought.
                https://youtu.be/e6cGR9VDY08


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                • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

                  Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                  Pearl Jam was never really grunge
                  Sure they were.

                  There's a great documentary of Sub Pop where a music critic plays a riff, inverts one note, and says, "that's grunge." It was always a gimmick but I still liked it.

                  Even Flow is grunge having unprotected anal sex with hard rock.

                  Yellow Ledbetter would be grunge except grunge was never that good. Let's say it's grunge being taken to school by an old blues guitarist.

                  Jeremy sucked and was the Platonic ideal of grunge.

                  Black is grunge at its most interesting (and got incredibly overplayed for it).

                  Daughter could be any 60s band playing with untuned guitars.

                  Nothingman is a terrible Dylan song which I assume was written as a parody.

                  Soon Forget is a ripoff of The Who's Blue Red and Grey but it's OK because Vedder has said he adores that song (as do I).

                  So PJ is grunge, but they were talented enough that they were also many other things, which is how it is with good acts.
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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Sure they were.

                    There's a great documentary of Sub Pop where a music critic plays a riff, inverts one note , and says, "that's grunge." It was always a gimmick but I still liked it.

                    Even Flow is grunge having unprotected anal sex with hard rock.

                    Yellow Ledbetter would be grunge except grunge was never that good. Let's say it's grunge being taken to school by an old blues guitarist.

                    Jeremy sucked and was the Platonic ideal of grunge.

                    Black is grunge at its most interesting (and got incredibly overplayed for it).

                    Daughter could be any 60s band playing with untuned guitars.

                    Nothingman is a terrible Dylan song which I assume was written as a parody.

                    Soon Forget is a ripoff of The Who's Blue Red and Grey but it's OK because Vedder has said he adores that song (as do I).

                    So PJ is grunge, but they were talented enough that they were also many other things, which is how it is with good acts.
                    Grunge was first used to describe Mudhoney, because of very slow tempo with dirty guitars. Eventually record companies cashed in on the hype and called every Seattle band grunge even if they didn’t have the signature sound developed in the late 80s Seattle underground scene. It became a meaningless marketing term that had nothing to do with the sound of the band, only the city they were based out of.

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                    • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

                      RIP Andy: https://youtu.be/_ibmNGpqU_Q
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                      "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                      "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                      Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                      • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

                        I love the grunge or grunge labeled big 4.

                        I mean this is the essence for me: https://youtu.be/NXTMlr4-mDw

                        Then they grew and tried different styles which was awesome.

                        An underrated EP from that era: https://youtu.be/Tev6PUzrALc
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                        "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                        "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                        Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                        • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

                          Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                          Saw him in DC just a coupla years ago. This hit me harder than any celeb death in the last 10 years.

                          We'll start the revolution without you, Andy.
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Saw him in DC just a coupla years ago. This hit me harder than any celeb death in the last 10 years.

                            We'll start the revolution without you, Andy.
                            I would have loved to have seen Gang Of Four live. ****!
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                            "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                            "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                            Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                            • Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

                              Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                              I would have loved to have seen Gang Of Four live. ****!
                              You would have. I saw them in 81, 83, 85, and 15. Every show was brilliant.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 02-01-2020, 06:34 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                You would have. I saw them in 81, 83, 85, and 15. Every show was brilliant.
                                God **** this is great! I’m so envious you got to see them in their prime!

                                They’re a Mount Rushmore type band.
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                                "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                                "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                                Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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