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  • In the early days of the Mormon movement, when they were in NY and OH, there were several black members of the community and priesthood who were praised by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. After the move to Missouri, a slave state, Smith and Young's Yankee abolitionist views waned. During that time, Smith issued a politically expedient proclamation that slavery was punishment for blacks being the descendants of Cain, who was "cursed" by the Heavenly Father with dark skin after murdering Abel. After the Mormons were run out of MO and living in Nauvoo, Smith quickly re-embraced abolitionism (how conveeeenient), but his fairytale about black skin being a divine curse for Cain's murder of Abel was enshrined in church doctrine. Once Smith was killed, blacks were effectively pushed out altogether by an order of Brigham Young that barred them from the LDS priesthood and temple rites as punishment for their supposed curse. That ban was famously lifted in 1978, but obviously that didn't reflect any further change in LDS doctrine, nor in the opinions of church members living in a majority-white monoculture.

    How this tripe sells to anyone in Africa, I have no idea.

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    • Fun times with Jesus as just some dude.

      tldr: Original Christianity died out and was re-created as a completely different animal by a bunch of charlatans about 150 AD who ripped off the stories of Inanna and Mithra to create Their Own... Personal... Jesus.



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      • The Cathaholics must not be very happy today with da Pope. What do you mean them gays shouldn’t be illegal?
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

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        • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          The Cathaholics must not be very happy today with da Pope. What do you mean them gays shouldn’t be illegal?
          Doin' it's still a sin, though.

          Baby steps. Took them 700 years to apologize for the Crusades.
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

            Doin' it's still a sin, though.

            Baby steps. Took them 700 years to apologize for the Crusades.
            Exactly. Still a half-measure at best. Like Britain "deeply regretting", but still not formally apologizing for the Amritsar Massacre in 2019. Gotta walk eggshells around the Tories, even though they already think you're a commie and the Antichrist.
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            • It's always the Thumpers.

              Preacher Accused of Enabling Pedophile at Creationist ‘Dino’ Theme Park

              Ex-residents of the theme park—where a child drowned in 2020—say a man convicted of playing strip poker with young boys brought a child to the park and shared a bed with him.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                It's always the Thumpers.
                I'm still very tired and misread that as "preacher accused dinosaurs of being pedophiles"

                Like, what the bell? That's a new one.
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                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Catholic Church: “Governments shouldn’t discriminate against gays - that’s OUR job!”

                  https://apnews.com/article/pope-fran...798a9ddd103ade


                  “The Vatican forbids both gay marriage and blessings for same-sex unions.”
                  If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                  • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                    Catholic Church: “Governments shouldn’t discriminate against gays - that’s OUR job!”

                    https://apnews.com/article/pope-fran...798a9ddd103ade


                    “The Vatican forbids both gay marriage and blessings for same-sex unions.”
                    I mean, to give some credit, they're acknowledging just because they don't endorse or condone something religiously doesn't mean that temporal bodies should be affected by that. I'm probably giving them too much credit there, but it's better than them feeling the other way, that laws should be based on what they want.

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                    Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                    Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                    TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                    DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                    Test to see if I can add this.

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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      It's always the Thumpers.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iiynmDgL9w
                      In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

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                      I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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                      • I found myself a deity.
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                        • Not surprised this nonsense is coming from West Michigan.

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                          • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                            Not surprised this nonsense is coming from West Michigan.

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                            It's the Hobby Lobby creeps, right?

                            This reminds me of guitar twanging hipsters in the rectory basement in the 70s desperate to make Catholicism "relevant to the keeeds." Christianity isn't losing the youth because of lack of focus testing, it's losing them because it is hopelessly compromised by the authoritarian vermin who control its public face and use it as a political bludgeoning instrument.

                            The only way to make Christianity attractive is to get rid of the current Christians.

                            It's what Jesus would do.

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                            • I could think of worse ads they could run, but I do agree that dropping $20m on two Super Bowl ads seems like it's not the best use of funds.

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                              • https://www.npr.org/2023/02/09/11556...m_term=nprnews

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