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  • #76
    Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    God just keeps changing His mind and coincidentally he stays on the side of whoever is the most power coercive force at any given moment.
    God is no fool.

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    • #77
      Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

      Originally posted by burd View Post
      God is no fool.
      He's the smart money.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        I drifted away when the kid-diddler scandal was swept under the rug the first time. As I entered my 20s and my politics changed, I looked back on the church's doctrinal positions, and they are no longer compatible with what I consider to be the facts of science and the realities of daily life.
        Not to mention the church is not compatible with good morals.

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        • #79
          Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          He's the smart money.
          Omniscience helps.

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          • #80
            Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            Only infallible on matters of faith and morals.

            Ergo, when Francis pontificates on political issues (such as the Trump border wall), he's not infallible.

            It's worth noting, while Francis has given lip service to more compassion for LGBT+ folks, he hasn't exactly made sweeping doctrinal changes on the matter. The way Joe sometimes talks, you'd think the guy had singlehandedly issued a landmark papal bull legitimizing same-sex marriage.
            Originally posted by BassAle View Post
            all political issues are moral issues
            Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post
            Not to mention the church is not compatible with good morals.
            Francis has paid lip service, yes. But the church still thinks I and my trans family are running around destroying creation. joe has openly told me "it's a lifestyle" that he "disagrees with." The church hasn't moved on THE BAY-BEEZ! So he should feel right at home in the Catholic church.
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            • #81
              Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

              I'm also laughing at the idea the Catholic church is still relevant.
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              • #82
                Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                I'm also laughing at the idea the Catholic church is still relevant.
                It is in the Third World, sadly. In Africa and South America the Catholic church's policies continue to lead to untold misery. They are hugely influential with the uneducated, just as they were once in Europe and North America. They could be a force for good if they could just pull their head out of whatever underage rectum it's lodging in.

                Religion has its place as a ladder between barbarism and the first rung of civilization. Once you reach competence you have to throw the ladder away because it becomes a burden and a useless vestigial obstacle, but the ladder is still needed by the billions on the bottom who can't jump to the first rung.

                Religion is the survey course in becoming human. Science is the graduate course. But most people need to take the survey course first -- only maybe 10% of the population places out of it.
                Last edited by Kepler; 10-09-2019, 11:05 AM.
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                • #83
                  Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                  A large % of world population needs something to look forward to, cause it ain’t ever gonna happen here
                  a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    A large % of world population needs something to look forward to, cause it ain’t ever gonna happen here
                    Ironically that attitude is what stops it from happening here, as the Haves calculated when they made sure the religions that the masses are exposed to protect their privileges.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                      I'm also laughing at the idea the Catholic church is still relevant.
                      After one of the Councils of Vienna in the mid 19th century, the same death knell was sounded. She emerged even stronger.

                      I'll go for smaller but more effective.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        After one of the Councils of Vienna in the mid 19th century, the same death knell was sounded. She emerged even stronger.

                        I'll go for smaller but more effective.
                        Effective at what?
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                        • #87
                          Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          Effective at what?
                          Hold on to money, power and control by keeping the Fairy Tale alive.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                            Effective at what?
                            He no help with curveball
                            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              Effective at what?

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                              • #90
                                Re: Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

                                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                That would be effective if I were Catholic, but I'm not.
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