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  • #436
    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    There is some theory behind Myers-Briggs but it's been buried under a metric ton of MBA dumbing down and stupidity. Myers and Briggs themselves were pseudo-scientists with an eye for the main chance who sold reworked Jungianism to a lot of slack-jawed businessmen and school administrators. For a very nice profit.

    tldr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
    I dunno. I think there's some value in some of the MB stuff. (Easy flippant reply: "Apparently they snagged engineers as well!") As long as you don't treat it as gospel or a static definition, it's a useful tool. It did help to illuminate some of my weaknesses when we took the Insight test. One of my favorite sections was:

    dxmnkd316 needs:
    • More time in the day
    • Help to tolerate colleagues less gifted than himself
    • To be fully informed
    • Someone to issue flak jackets to all members of his team
    • Time to adjust to other points of view
    • The authority to re-examine and re-test his conclusions
    • To be encouraged to explore new ideas
    • To be given opportunities for personal development
    • An able, fast-paced backup team
    There are certainly some areas there, namely the flak jacket comment, that made me realize I need to be less of an a-hole. I think it also helps to know what type of personality someone is when you engage them. Are they someone who wants three bullet points and then for you to disappear, or do you need to satisfy their need to discuss the day and blah blah blah before you can get to brass tacks.

    There was a lot of other interesting info in the results booklet. I thought it was worth 30 minutes of my time and $150 in expensed budget. Either way, as long as you treat it as a tool instead of a definition, you might find value.




    Edit: I suppose you could say that if you spin the MB Wheel of Personality and just do a printout of those strengths and weaknesses, everyone could find some sort of self-fulfilling answer to their problems. *shrug* everything is what you make of it.
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    Originally posted by SanTropez
    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
    Originally posted by Kepler
    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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    • #437
      Jesus got arrested again.

      25 years ago I read a book about High Russian Weirdness that had a chapter about this guy, along with secret cities under the subway tracks and oligarchs who built skyscrapers entirely out of wood. I had no idea his group had managed to stay alive in the Taiga all this time.
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      • #438
        Nice.
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        • #439
          The time to enjoy LP is now, because they will turn their cannons toward Ds very soon, and they will not have forgotten how to use them. Our glee will turn to grudging admiration.

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          • #440
            At this point, I don't miss going to church. I'm having more fun with my friends on Sunday mornings at Lucy's Cafe, bonding over biscuits and gravy and coffee.
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            • #441
              Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
              At this point, I don't miss going to church. I'm having more fun with my friends on Sunday mornings at Lucy's Cafe, bonding over biscuits and gravy and coffee.
              Church is what you make it.
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              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • #442
                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                Church is what you make it.
                -- The Republican party.
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                • #443
                  Religion is so healthy.
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                  • #444
                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                    Church is what you make it.
                    The mind is its own place, and in it self
                    Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.

                    John Milton

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                    • #445
                      Originally posted by burd View Post

                      The mind is its own place, and in it self
                      Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.

                      John Milton
                      there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so

                      Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2
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                      • #446
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                        there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so

                        Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2
                        A simple enough thought, but thank Parise for poets. I've always liked your Hamlet quote more, for some reason.

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                        • #447
                          Originally posted by burd View Post

                          A simple enough thought, but thank Parise for poets. I've always liked your Hamlet quote more, for some reason.
                          The whole exchange is great.

                          GUILDENSTERN
                          My honoured lord!
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          My most dear lord!
                          HAMLET
                          My excellent good friends! How dost thou,
                          Guildenstern? Ah, Rosencrantz! Good lads, how do ye both?
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          As the indifferent children of the earth.
                          GUILDENSTERN
                          Happy, in that we are not over-happy;
                          On fortune's cap we are not the very button.
                          HAMLET
                          Nor the soles of her shoe?
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          Neither, my lord.
                          HAMLET
                          Then you live about her waist, or in the middle of
                          her favours?
                          GUILDENSTERN
                          'Faith, her privates we.
                          HAMLET
                          In the secret parts of fortune? O, most true; she
                          is a strumpet. What's the news?
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          None, my lord, but that the world's grown honest.
                          HAMLET
                          Then is doomsday near: but your news is not true.
                          Let me question more in particular: what have you,
                          my good friends, deserved at the hands of fortune,
                          that she sends you to prison hither?
                          GUILDENSTERN
                          Prison, my lord!
                          HAMLET
                          Denmark's a prison.
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          Then is the world one.
                          HAMLET
                          A goodly one; in which there are many confines,
                          wards and dungeons, Denmark being one o' the worst.
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          We think not so, my lord.
                          HAMLET
                          Why, then, 'tis none to you; for there is nothing
                          either good or bad, but thinking makes it so: to me
                          it is a prison.
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          Why then, your ambition makes it one; 'tis too
                          narrow for your mind.
                          HAMLET
                          O God, I could be bounded in a nut shell and count
                          myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I
                          have bad dreams.
                          GUILDENSTERN
                          Which dreams indeed are ambition, for the very
                          substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
                          HAMLET
                          A dream itself is but a shadow.
                          ROSENCRANTZ
                          Truly, and I hold ambition of so airy and light a
                          quality that it is but a shadow's shadow.
                          HAMLET
                          Then are our beggars bodies, and our monarchs and
                          outstretched heroes the beggars' shadows.
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                          • #448
                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                            The whole exchange is great.

                            GUILDENSTERN
                            My honoured lord!
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            My most dear lord!
                            HAMLET
                            My excellent good friends! How dost thou,
                            Guildenstern? Ah, Rosencrantz! Good lads, how do ye both?
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            As the indifferent children of the earth.
                            GUILDENSTERN
                            Happy, in that we are not over-happy;
                            On fortune's cap we are not the very button.
                            HAMLET
                            Nor the soles of her shoe?
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            Neither, my lord.
                            HAMLET
                            Then you live about her waist, or in the middle of
                            her favours?
                            GUILDENSTERN
                            'Faith, her privates we.
                            HAMLET
                            In the secret parts of fortune? O, most true; she
                            is a strumpet. What's the news?
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            None, my lord, but that the world's grown honest.
                            HAMLET
                            Then is doomsday near: but your news is not true.
                            Let me question more in particular: what have you,
                            my good friends, deserved at the hands of fortune,
                            that she sends you to prison hither?
                            GUILDENSTERN
                            Prison, my lord!
                            HAMLET
                            Denmark's a prison.
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            Then is the world one.
                            HAMLET
                            A goodly one; in which there are many confines,
                            wards and dungeons, Denmark being one o' the worst.
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            We think not so, my lord.
                            HAMLET
                            Why, then, 'tis none to you; for there is nothing
                            either good or bad, but thinking makes it so: to me
                            it is a prison.
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            Why then, your ambition makes it one; 'tis too
                            narrow for your mind.
                            HAMLET
                            O God, I could be bounded in a nut shell and count
                            myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I
                            have bad dreams.
                            GUILDENSTERN
                            Which dreams indeed are ambition, for the very
                            substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
                            HAMLET
                            A dream itself is but a shadow.
                            ROSENCRANTZ
                            Truly, and I hold ambition of so airy and light a
                            quality that it is but a shadow's shadow.
                            HAMLET
                            Then are our beggars bodies, and our monarchs and
                            outstretched heroes the beggars' shadows.
                            Do you know if there are many old manuscripts showing his marked up drafts? What a treat that would be.

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                            • #449
                              Pope Francis endorses same sex civil unions

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                              • #450
                                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                                Pope Francis endorses same sex civil unions
                                Huh. That's interesting. Hitherto, despite his sanity on other things, he was just another GOD HATES FAGS pope.
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