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  • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

    So a team could win the Cup this year, and still pick first overall. What a fcking joke this league is.
    No, one of the eight losers of the play-in round will win the #1 spot.

    So the eight losers of:
    #5 Pittsburgh Penguins vs. #12 Montreal Canadiens
    #6 Carolina Hurricanes vs. #11 New York Rangers
    #7 New York Islanders vs. #10 Florida Panthers
    #8 Toronto Maple Leafs vs. #9 Columbus Blue Jackets
    #5 Edmonton Oilers vs. #12 Chicago Blackhawks
    #6 Nashville Predators vs. #11 Arizona Coyotes
    #7 Vancouver Canucks vs. #10 Minnesota Wild
    #8 Calgary Flames vs. #9 Winnipeg Jets

    Will all have the same odds of winning the #1 spot.

    Or in simpler terms:


    If Vegas odds are a thing, I would expect Montreal, Chicago, and Edmonton are even money bets.
    Last edited by aparch; 06-27-2020, 01:37 PM.
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    • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

      So a team could win the Cup this year, and still pick first overall. What a fcking joke this league is.
      As aparch pointed out, it's just the qualifying round loser. The best team that could get the pick would be Pittsburgh, who is 9th based on seeding. But, based on league-wide points percentage, they're actually the 7th best team. In normal circumstances, I believe the best they could pick would be 23rd.

      Unless I'm mistaken regarding the statistics, the NHL left a giant flaw in the lottery by keeping the standard procedure, or at the very least not weighting Phase 2. They kept the 15 slots for the top three picks, but since eight of the slots are just placeholders they essentially act as one team for the purpose of the lottery. Those add up to total 24.5%. Then, because the Phase 2 draw is equally weighted among the qualifying round losers, this gives each of those teams a 12.5% chance of being put anywhere from the first pick to picks 9-15.

      (.245*.125) is a little over 3.06% for any qualifying loser to get the #1 pick. While this does reduce the odds for the teams who get Team A, B, or C (6%, 5%, 3.5%), normally reserved for 8-10, it increases the odds for the other five teams, who are normally at 3%, 2.5%, 2%, 1.5% and 1%.
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      • The two hubs for the playoffs are Edmonton and Toronto. NHL was hoping to toss Vegas another bone but didn't forgot that Vegas opened their casinos last month with no social distancing or masks and was probably confirmed by the fact that Europe views America as a giant Petri dish and the players could never go home.
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        • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          The two hubs for the playoffs are Edmonton and Toronto. NHL was hoping to toss Vegas another bone but didn't forgot that Vegas opened their casinos last month with no social distancing or masks and was probably confirmed by the fact that Europe views America as a giant Petri dish and the players could never go home.
          How else will canadian hockey fans ever get to see the Cup paraded around on canadian ice?
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          • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

            How else will canadian hockey fans ever get to see the Cup paraded around on canadian ice?
            Yikes. This is one of those "too close to the bone" things.
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            • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
              The two hubs for the playoffs are Edmonton and Toronto. NHL was hoping to toss Vegas another bone but didn't forgot that Vegas opened their casinos last month with no social distancing or masks and was probably confirmed by the fact that Europe views America as a giant Petri dish and the players could never go home.
              A few thoughts:

              1. Seems pretty sure that Rogers will be handling all the production. Probably a small NBC crew at each site but going off of the Sportsnet feed.

              2. To that end, no surprise seeing Toronto picked. Everything media in Canada, with a few exceptions, is done in Toronto.

              3. Edmonton is a bit surprising, most Western Canada media is done out of Calgary or Vancouver, though it wouldn’t be difficult to get things to Edmonton.

              4. How effed up is America right now that even the NHL, probably the worst run of the major sports leagues, is saying “no thanks”?
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              But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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              • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                3. Edmonton is a bit surprising, most Western Canada media is done out of Calgary or Vancouver, though it wouldn’t be difficult to get things to Edmonton.
                How bad were all of the cities hit? Maybe Vancouver being closer to Seattle puts it more at risk, so they tossed a coin on which Alberta city to use?

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                • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

                  How bad were all of the cities hit? Maybe Vancouver being closer to Seattle puts it more at risk, so they tossed a coin on which Alberta city to use?
                  Looks worse in Alberta than BC actually.

                  The froggies got nailed, presumably for failure to wash.
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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                    Looks worse in Alberta than BC actually.

                    The froggies got nailed, presumably for failure to wash.
                    Not surprising in Alberta, it’s basically Texas with hockey and snow.

                    Quebec is apparently because their Provincial response has been terrible.
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                    Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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                    • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                      Not surprising in Alberta, it’s basically Texas with hockey and snow.
                      When we were up in Lake Louise we would listen to terrestrial radio while driving. They had local yokel Canuck versions of Rush who were just as stupid, with all the same idiocy. Apparently rural people everywhere fall for the same obvious nonsense. They also had Canadian versions of fire and brimstone preachers, which was like the scene at the start of Children of the Corn but I assume that was wafting over from Saskatchewan.
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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                        When we were up in Lake Louise we would listen to terrestrial radio while driving. They had local yokel Canuck versions of Rush who were just as stupid, with all the same idiocy. Apparently rural people everywhere fall for the same obvious nonsense. They also had Canadian versions of fire and brimstone preachers, which was like the scene at the start of Children of the Corn but I assume that was wafting over from Saskatchewan.
                        Doubtful, everything I know of Canada is that the more right wing derp stuff comes from either Alberta or the Letterkenny parts of Ontario.
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                        Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                        But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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                        • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                          Doubtful, everything I know of Canada is that the more right wing derp stuff comes from either Alberta or the Letterkenny parts of Ontario.
                          I just assumed it was from the prairies, not the mountains. Farmers with their derpy rain gods.
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                          • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                            A few thoughts:

                            1. Seems pretty sure that Rogers will be handling all the production. Probably a small NBC crew at each site but going off of the Sportsnet feed.

                            2. To that end, no surprise seeing Toronto picked. Everything media in Canada, with a few exceptions, is done in Toronto.

                            3. Edmonton is a bit surprising, most Western Canada media is done out of Calgary or Vancouver, though it wouldn’t be difficult to get things to Edmonton.

                            4. How effed up is America right now that even the NHL, probably the worst run of the major sports leagues, is saying “no thanks”?
                            I don't know how tight the bubble is supposed to be or if it's even big enough to hold everyone, but there is a hotel connected to Edmonton's arena. Probably didn't play that much of a factor, but who knows.

                            Also, it's very hard to search for a Rogers sports building. Rogers Arena is in Vancouver, Rogers Place is in Edmonton, and Rogers Centre is in Toronto.
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                              Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                              But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                              Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                              Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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