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    • Roberts concurs with the liberals in striking down Louisiana's abortion ruling, says he thinks it was wrongly decided in 2016 and it's about upholding precedent right now.
      Last edited by bronconick; 06-29-2020, 09:35 AM.
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      • Final opinion of the day: By a 5–4 vote, the conservatives rule that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional—but sever the unlawful provision, allowing the agency to stand while permitting the president to fire its director for any reason.
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        • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          Final opinion of the day: By a 5–4 vote, the conservatives rule that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional—but sever the unlawful provision, allowing the agency to stand while permitting the president to fire its director for any reason.
          So now the question will be how does this impact other agencies like the Fed that are supposed to be independent.

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          • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
            Roberts concurs with the liberals in striking down Louisiana's abortion ruling, says he thinks it was wrongly decided in 2016 and it's about upholding precedent right now.
            There was an Iowa Supreme Court case a few years ago where a Justice made a similarly chicken**** argument regarding gay marriage. Aka well I guess it's precedent, so I'll agree with the liberals even though I would've decided it differently. At least that guy was a new justice and hadn't literally argued the opposite in the last case.

            I'm glad Roberts did it, because it's absolutely the right call, but watering it down by saying he still thinks the last case was wrongly decided to try to appease his base is just gonna **** off everyone. The conservatives will ***** he didn't uphold the law and changed his vote to protect his legacy (absolutely true in this case, btw), the liberals will ***** because he was so wishy washy and didn't come out more forcefully.

            Just say "did we stutter? The answer is no." and move on. Don't water it down by saying how you disagree but need to vote this way anyway.

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            • So Roberts does the right thing, but leaves just enough wiggle room for all the Pro/Anti abortion rights activists to continue their war so America will not be able to move on. Sweet.
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              • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                There was an Iowa Supreme Court case a few years ago where a Justice made a similarly chicken**** argument regarding gay marriage. Aka well I guess it's precedent, so I'll agree with the liberals even though I would've decided it differently. At least that guy was a new justice and hadn't literally argued the opposite in the last case.

                I'm glad Roberts did it, because it's absolutely the right call, but watering it down by saying he still thinks the last case was wrongly decided to try to appease his base is just gonna **** off everyone. The conservatives will ***** he didn't uphold the law and changed his vote to protect his legacy (absolutely true in this case, btw), the liberals will ***** because he was so wishy washy and didn't come out more forcefully.

                Just say "did we stutter? The answer is no." and move on. Don't water it down by saying how you disagree but need to vote this way anyway.
                The part of me that's viewed the Supremes as more and more political since Bush/Gore makes me wonder if he thinks striking it down would bring a 2008 Obama+ turnout and it's wishy washy enough to kill it when Ginsburg croaks if Trump survives. That's also why I expect him to remand the Trump tax cases until 2021 on some technicality and he doesn't have to do anything.
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                • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                  Roberts concurs with the liberals in striking down Louisiana's abortion ruling, says he thinks it was wrongly decided in 2016 and it's about upholding precedent right now.
                  Throw us the social bones while bleeding us dry on the economics.
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                  • Originally posted by Bronco View Post
                    So Roberts does the right thing, but leaves just enough wiggle room for all the Pro/Anti abortion rights activists to continue their war so America will not be able to move on. Sweet.
                    The anti-choice groups will never move on.

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                    • Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post

                      The anti-choice groups will never move on.
                      That's the fundraising genius of Roe. It's running against Arabic numerals.
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                      • Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post

                        The anti-choice groups will never move on.
                        That's by design. Having abortion legal is a massive funding source for the GOP.
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                        • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                          Final opinion of the day: By a 5–4 vote, the conservatives rule that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional—but sever the unlawful provision, allowing the agency to stand while permitting the president to fire its director for any reason.
                          I'm thinking this is a very bad thing.
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                          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                          • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

                            I'm thinking this is a very bad thing.
                            Certainly not unexpected. Anything that stands in the way of Wall Street's ability to grind an individual citizen's face in the glass must be eliminated.

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                            • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

                              That's by design. Having abortion legal is a massive funding source for the GOP.
                              It's also why Norma McCorvey flipped. Money talks.

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                              • These are about as good of a ruling as we can reasonably expect. Was worried about CFPB because it sticks it to corporations and you have 5 corporate cons on the court. Get rid of chump and that agency can properly function. Abortion law is a bit of a surprise as it required Roberts to reverse his own ruling but it seems clear he did not want to relitigate every Kennedy written 5-4 decision over the last 30 years. Whatever his motivations, good for him.
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