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  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    Wasn't this name the "frontrunner" for Rapey McBeerface's seat? I know I remember seeing this name on the pundits lists for one of Trump's choices.
    Yep. IIRC, it was suggested to pull his nomination and nominate her, but I believe his response was "I'm saving her for Ginsburg"
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    • We have to vote because the Senate represents the will of the people, says woman who the people already said no to: https://twitter.com/SenMcSallyAZ/sta...23253845032960

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      • https://twitter.com/ConservaTex/stat...27187603152902

        Yep. The woman dies and that ****er doesn't wait 1 ****ing second. And Kentucy is going to sweep his *** back into office.
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        • Originally posted by French Rage View Post
          We have to vote because the Senate represents the will of the people, says woman who the people already said no to: https://twitter.com/SenMcSallyAZ/sta...23253845032960
          She is such an insufferable c u n t

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          • https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...31790990151688

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                • McSally knows she wont get to vote on the successor after January because she is done. She has zero to lose.

                  This is playing out great...the usual suspects are hemming and hawing and the crackpots are gonna force the issue since we know Trump is going to make them. All we need now is for Donald to put Cruz or Cotton forward and the GOP will be signing their own death certificate.
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                  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    This is playing out great...the usual suspects are hemming and hawing and the crackpots are gonna force the issue since we know Trump is going to make them. All we need now is for Donald to put Cruz or Cotton forward and the GOP will be signing their own death certificate.
                    Or he can nominate Amy Coney Barrett, currently sitting on the Seventh Circuit's Court of Appeals, who was an early Trump nominee to that post. Married, seven (7) children, including two adopted children from Haiti, and one special needs child.

                    If the Dems try to gin up the outrage machine at her expense (a la Kavanaugh), they risk losing whatever traction they currently think they may have with suburban soccer moms.

                    No way he picks Cruz or Cotton. Too political, just a friendly ego boost for their folks back home.

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                    • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      McSally knows she wont get to vote on the successor after January because she is done. She has zero to lose.

                      This is playing out great...the usual suspects are hemming and hawing and the crackpots are gonna force the issue since we know Trump is going to make them. All we need now is for Donald to put Cruz or Cotton forward and the GOP will be signing their own death certificate.
                      They will find some batsh-t crazy fundy black woman under 50. We'll have our first QAnon SCOTUS justice.
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                      • https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...68394169516032

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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                          They will find some batsh-t crazy fundy black woman under 50. We'll have our first QAnon SCOTUS justice.
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                          • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            I cant imagine that will be used in any campaign ads between now and November...
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                            • I love it...the FauxQ crowd is flooding Twitter with calls to push through the nom and lying about the McConnell Rule. Force the issue baby!
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

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                              • First off: horrible, horrible news. I was sick to my stomach last night when I heard the news. RBG was a great justice, and wrote some tremendous opinions. This country will miss her tremendously.

                                Second: In principle, I would agree that Trump should nominate a replacement, and the Senate should go through the process of holding hearings and voting to confirm/deny. This is what the Constitution specifies. However, the Republicans have no principles and do not care what the Constitution says. This has been shown repeatedly, and, specifically as to this topic, was on full display in 2016 after Garland was nominated. Of course, we all knew then that the Republicans were full of ****. That being said, should we stand on our principles (i.e. regardless of what happened previously, the Constitutionally correct position would be to go through the nomination/confirmation process) or push the Republican argument re Garland (i.e. no appointments/confirmations during election season)?

                                Third: To the extent that Trump nominates a replacement (almost 100% certainty), and the Senate takes up the confirmation process (also an almost 100% certainty), I think it makes sense to fight like hell to delay the confirmation process until Election Day (or once the results from Election Day are known, which may take a few weeks/months). Perhaps there are also enough Republican Senators to assist with ensuring that the confirmation process does not end until after the results from the election are known. Then, there are four scenarios: (a) Biden wins, and the Democrats take over the Senate (and keep the House); (b) Biden wins, but the Republicans keep the Senate; (c) Trump wins and the Republicans keep the Senate; and (d) Trump wins and the Democrats take over the Senate.

                                My initial thoughts on how to play this out under these scenarios:

                                Under scenario (a): Play the principled stance (i.e. take up the nomination and confirm if appropriate during the lame duck session). Then, in the afternoon of January 20, 2021, kill the filibuster and pass legislation increasing the size of the Supreme Court to 15 justices, and have Biden nominate 6 additional justices. (Also, give statehood to DC/PR/others, presuming they want it. I would just caution that PR may not be the solid blue state that a lot of people think it is, although I do believe it would lean that way.) Democrats get the best of both worlds: high ground as to taking a principled and Constitutionally correct stance, and a Supreme Court that reflects the actual populace.

                                Under scenario (b): Attempt to delay until after January 20, 2021. This will likely be unsuccessful, but hopefully playing Republican hypocrisy over the airwaves for 2 years (to the 60% of the country that would listen and hopefully be motivated to vote) until the 2022 midterms might help reclaim the Senate, particularly in what looks like a good map favoring Democrats. Presuming the Democrats take over the Senate in 2022, see legislation discussed above under scenario (a).

                                Under scenario (c): This is, obviously, the most concerning scenario. Realistically, the democracy as we know it would end, and I can only imagine how deeply Trump would destroy the country and tilt the playing field to the right. However, and assuming there is at least the potential to save the country, I believe playing the principled stance would probably make the most sense. It won't matter delaying, and at least Democrats would have a principled argument to make over the following 2 years with a look at taking over the Senate in 2022. Then hopefully Democrats would regain the trifecta in 2024 and could follow the legislative path discussed above under scenario (a).

                                Under scenario (d): This is highly unlikely to play out this way, but I think the principled stance makes the most sense. Going 4 years without a Ninth Justice would be a politically difficult posture to take. Similar to scenario (c), the goal here would be to retake the the trifecta in 2024. Then follow the legislative path discussed above under scenario (a).

                                Fourth: I think a cutesy play for the Republicans would be to nominate Garland. They could "rectify" their error from 2016, while reaping the benefits of keeping the Court conservative from 2016-2020, and then replacing RBG with a moderate Garland. Democrats would also be put in a bit of a bind on pushing for any delay. Of course, Trump would never nominate him, and if he did his base would go ballistic (perhaps both literally and figuratively), but it would provide the Republicans in the Senate some cover for the 2016 travesty.
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