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[MissThundercat]

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No, I don't think so. She's basically "both sides-ing" in the way that Hillary does worst, and I agree with Kep she should just stay away from such questions altogether. She does neither side any favors with these mealy-mouthed, "Well, it's complicated" type answers.

In a way, she's right. My perception is that the whole TERF thing is mostly generational - older people, in this case older feminists, feeling threatened by cultural change ("What happened to us man-hating lesbian feminists Rush Limbaugh used to feel threatened by!?") and getting cranky about it is nothing new. In an era without the Internet, they'd have little to no platform to express and spread their little bigotries, but such in the price of technological progress.

She just needs to be quiet. Stay home and blow bubba. Let it dribble down her blue muumuus

You do recall she came around on gay marriage because of "electoral necessity," right? And it may not sound TERF-y to you, but when she says "trans issues cause legitimate concern to women," I rang the TERF bell.

[dxmnkd316]

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You do recall she came around on gay marriage because of "electoral necessity," right? And it may not sound TERF-y to you, but when she says "trans issues cause legitimate concern to women," I rang the TERF bell.

Do you know that for sure? Does that put Obama in a similar classification? He didn’t come around until 2008 or 2010. I can’t remember.

Everyone* evolves and does so for different reasons. Reasons are important sometimes but are also secondary. The important thing is the evolution.

I do think you have a point about her statement. It has problems but it depends on the context and intent. If it’s because she thinks trans people are scary and will assault women or they aren’t women, yeah, that’s bad. But I think Kep and Fade explained that better.

[Kepler]

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Do you know that for sure? Does that put Obama in a similar classification? He didn’t come around until 2008 or 2010. I can’t remember.

Yes, of course both of them came around for electoral reasons. They are politicians. They do everything for electoral reasons. Their mindset is their political persona.

[Kepler]

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Well OK then.

[ticapnews]

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This is Adam Fannin of the Stedfast Baptist Church in Florida and he is going to get me killed. pic.twitter.com/I6Us59o59v

— Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) August 8, 2019

Ain't free speech grand?

[BassAle]

but when she says "trans issues cause legitimate concern to women,"

I know some women would be uncomfortable sharing a locker room with you at least until you’ve had bottom surgery — including many that would otherwise consider themselves your ally. I’m not sure if she meant things like that. It’s going to take some people a while to wrap their head around the fact that having a ***** doesn’t mean someone is a man.

[The Rube]

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I know some women would be uncomfortable sharing a locker room with you at least until you’ve had bottom surgery — including many that would otherwise consider themselves your ally. I’m not sure if she meant things like that. It’s going to take some people a while to wrap their head around the fact that having a ***** doesn’t mean someone is a man.

I have to admit, that'd be weird. Same with a woman who trans-ed to a man in a men's locker room; all the hair/pecs/etc, but no bottom part. It's unfamiliar, and goes against everything most of us have been brought up with. I don't say that with malice, not one bit. It's just very unfamiliar territory, and as humans, we generally are uncomfortable with change. It takes getting used to.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Ain't free speech grand?

But don't call them Nazis...or else!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I stopped caring about which bathroom/locker room someone uses when I had a coworker come out as trans male, then I quit for another firm (in no way due to that guy), and started working on projects with a trans woman who is from New York and has lost none of her Lawn Guyland-ness despite the transition (probably 15-20 years ago for her now).

[mookie1995]

I have to admit, that'd be weird. Same with a woman who trans-ed to a man in a men's locker room; all the hair/pecs/etc, but no bottom part. It's unfamiliar, and goes against everything most of us have been brought up with. I don't say that with malice, not one bit. It's just very unfamiliar territory, and as humans, we generally are uncomfortable with change. It takes getting used to.

Americans are a different shade taliban.
As mookie has travelled, only in the Middle East and far west Middle East () does one need a same sexer to clean the John. Asia and Europe have broads cleaning the men’s room in a most professional manner. Dudes now know how to just pee or poo and not get worked up whipping it out in front of them. Adults can adult.

[Kepler]

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Americans are a different shade taliban.
As mookie has travelled, only in the Middle East and far west Middle East () does one need a same sexer to clean the John. Asia and Europe have broads cleaning the men’s room in a most professional manner. Dudes now know how to just pee or poo and not get worked up whipping it out in front of them. Adults can adult.

The Puritan stain is still on us.

[burd]

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The Puritan stain is still on us.

A significant part of our brain disease came up through that root.

[LynahFan]

The Puritan stain is still on us.

My only HS teacher with a PhD taught AP American History. He was famous for his emphasis on the Puritans and assigned a research paper on them each year that was due right before Thanksgiving. We then got around to less important topics like the Revolutionary War, US Constitution, slavery, Civil War, etc. We had only made it up to the start of WW1 on the day of the AP exam.

But he was smart to focus on the Puritans - their stench really does permeate nearly all facets of American life, from our excessive work ethic, to our punitive justice system, to our extreme hang ups with sex and drugs, etc.

[French Rage]

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My only HS teacher with a PhD taught AP American History. He was famous for his emphasis on the Puritans and assigned a research paper on them each year that was due right before Thanksgiving. We then got around to less important topics like the Revolutionary War, US Constitution, slavery, Civil War, etc. We had only made it up to the start of WW1 on the day of the AP exam.

I don't think I ever had an American History class at any level (elementary, middle, high school) make it past, like, 1900.

[dxmnkd316]

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My only HS teacher with a PhD taught AP American History. He was famous for his emphasis on the Puritans and assigned a research paper on them each year that was due right before Thanksgiving. We then got around to less important topics like the Revolutionary War, US Constitution, slavery, Civil War, etc. We had only made it up to the start of WW1 on the day of the AP exam.

But he was smart to focus on the Puritans - their stench really does permeate nearly all facets of American life, from our excessive work ethic, to our punitive justice system, to our extreme hang ups with sex and drugs, etc.

You made it past the industrial revolution before the test? Cripes. I had to study on my own, which our teacher warned us about. He was fantastic though. Focused on the right parts.

I was only one of three kids to pass. All that time in front of the History Channel was worth something. Now? Lol!!!!!!