Another Mass Shooting: It's Those Darn Video Games!

[First Time, Long Time]

I know we're going to be shocked by this...but the gun was unlocked in a drawer and the parents
"Saw nothing to indicate something like this was possible."

https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/...001605121?s=19

[Handyman]

My friends wife teaches there...it is literally 2 miles from here. ****ing crazy...

[St. Clown]

My friends wife teaches there...it is literally 2 miles from here. ****ing crazy...

I think you’re going through a bit of what my brothers did when the DC Sniper (Lee Malvo) and his son shot some kids outside the school in Bowie, MD. My brothers attended that school, we lived about 4 blocks from the school before movie to MN back in ‘78.

[ScoobyDoo]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kansas-...nkId=117258124

A 24-year-old journalist for a Kansas City public radio station died this weekend after apparently being struck by a stray bullet that pierced a window in her apartment.

I guess there were no good guys around. Where they all hanging out?

[MichVandal]

I know we're going to be shocked by this...but the gun was unlocked in a drawer and the parents
"Saw nothing to indicate something like this was possible."

https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/...001605121?s=19

Aren't there supposed to be laws for gun owners who's guns were used illegally??? I thought that was a real thing.

This is going to end with more and more mass murders. And then the end of the 2nd amendment by the public who see that it's more a harm than a good.

[bronconick]

Aren't there supposed to be laws for gun owners who's guns were used illegally??? I thought that was a real thing.

This is going to end with more and more mass murders. And then the end of the 2nd amendment by the public who see that it's more a harm than a good.

The 2nd Amendment that this wonderful Supreme Court is likely to expand? We're going to be long dead before it ends

[MichVandal]

The 2nd Amendment that this wonderful Supreme Court is likely to expand? We're going to be long dead before it ends

Given the change in opinion to repeal the 2nd over time, I think it's more possible than anyone thinks. The public can overturn it, and the SCOTUS can do nothing about it.

[SJHovey]

Given the change in opinion to repeal the 2nd over time, I think it's more possible than anyone thinks. The public can overturn it, and the SCOTUS can do nothing about it.

Doesn't it take something like a 2/3 vote in each house of Congress, plus 75% of the states to repeal an amendment?

[MichVandal]

Doesn't it take something like a 2/3 vote in each house of Congress, plus 75% of the states to repeal an amendment?

2/3 House or 2/3 states via a Constitutional convention. Not both. The 21st repealed the 18th with just the states.

[SJHovey]

2/3 House or 2/3 states via a Constitutional convention. Not both. The 21st repealed the 18th with just the states.

I think there are two options.

One, you can call a Constitutional convention, but that requires a vote of 2/3 of the state legislatures to get that done, and at that point all bets are off with respect to what gets done when they start re-writing the constitution.

Option two is that both houses of Congress have to pass the proposed repeal, by a 2/3 majority, then it gets sent to the states. 3/4ths of the states have to approve it. That can be done by the state legislatures, or it can be done by state conventions.

[LynahFan]

Given the change in opinion to repeal the 2nd over time, I think it's more possible than anyone thinks. The public can overturn it, and the SCOTUS can do nothing about it.

No, the public cannot. It would require ratification by 38 state legislatures. There are currently only 18 where both houses are controlled by Democrats (2 split and 30 R). To get to 38, you’d have to pick up both splits (MN and AK). NE is unicameral, so then you’d need a further 37 R chambers (for a total of 39) to vote against party and donor doctrine to get it done. There are only 61 R chambers, so you’re talking about flipping at a very minimum 39 out of 61 R chambers. Keep in mind that it is likely that many of those chambers probably have rules that allow a single Member (a la Mitch McConnell) to prevent even getting a vote, so not only do enough Rs have to flip - they have to be the RIGHT ones.

It’s far more likely that the current SCOTUS uses Corlett to take the opportunity to declare that the 2nd amendment really only applies to state-controlled national guards. Not. Happening.

[LynahFan]

I think there are two options.

One, you can call a Constitutional convention, but that requires a vote of 2/3 of the state legislatures to get that done, and at that point all bets are off with respect to what gets done when they start re-writing the constitution.

Option two is that both houses of Congress have to pass the proposed repeal, by a 2/3 majority, then it gets sent to the states. 3/4ths of the states have to approve it. That can be done by the state legislatures, or it can be done by state conventions.

Either way, it still has to be ratified by 75% of the state legislatures (governors cannot veto). 2/3 of states to call the convention, but 3/4 to ratify the results of the convention’s work.

[Handyman]

Yeah that is why the ERA never passed...

[bronconick]

A constitutional convention is handing the new Constitution to ALEC. There's a reason they've been trying to get one of those for decades

[Jimjamesak]

A constitutional convention is handing the new Constitution to ALEC. There's a reason they've been trying to get one of those for decades

Yeah, and we came real close a few years ago to having enough Republican run Legislatures to have it happen.