The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo

[Kepler]

I keep coming back to this. There's another forum I read where there is a philosophy professor that keeps saying "the fascists' always lose". And he's right.


The Fascists Always Lose.

Exactly.

Show me a Dumpy and I'll show you a loser.

[Kepler]

That's all well and good. But no matter how you shake it you can't shake the fact that Donald Trump was President of the United States and the Current Supreme Court of the United States of America has more in common with the Taliban than Jesus Christ. The man they claim to follow.

Your defeatism is a gift to them. Stop whining and start thinking about what is effective. Your hand-wringing and whining isn't some rye, jaundiced, but clear-sighted statement of The Hard Truth. It's the coward's excuse to cower in the corner.

What the **** happened to the Left I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

C'mon Kep, you know that Scooby is a "glass is totally ****ing empty" kind of guy.

[ScoobyDoo]

C'mon Kep, you know that Scooby is a "glass is totally ****ing empty" kind of guy.

It's pretty easy for me to think this way when exactly what I have been predicting for the last 20 years has all come to fruition. Hope is eternal. Reality is a *****.

[psych]

Scooby, have you stopped voting entirely? If not, your “defeatism” on a college hockey board is a gift to no one other than us on here experiencing the joy of reading it. The “historical flukes” known as the Electoral College and Senate are here to stay, and only getting worse in the long-run for Democrats. SCOTUS is set-up to protect restrictive ****ing bullsh-t except to arm more white Christians to kill anyone who isn’t white, male, Christian. That’s not defeatist, that’s reality. If he stopped voting, yeah, that’s a gift to Republicans. Scooby would vote for all of the same things you want, Kep. He’s not the problem.

[ScoobyDoo]

Scooby, have you stopped voting entirely? If not, your “defeatism” on a college hockey board is a gift to no one other than us on here experiencing the joy of reading it. The “historical flukes” known as the Electoral College and Senate are here to stay, and only getting worse in the long-run for Democrats. SCOTUS is set-up to protect restrictive ****ing bullsh-t except to arm more white Christians to kill anyone who isn’t white, male, Christian. That’s not defeatist, that’s reality. If he stopped voting, yeah, that’s a gift to Republicans. Scooby would vote for all of the same things you want, Kep. He’s not the problem.

I vote blue 100% and will volunteer for anyone's campaign that will have me as long as they are Democrat.

[cF[Authentic]]

Stop saying the US sucks,

To be fair, compared to the rest of the modern world the US does really suck.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I believe that scooby will vote. He’s not the dem on here who said they may abstain or vote independent. That’s the harmful behavior

[Jimjamesak]

To be fair, compared to the rest of the modern world the US does really suck.

Yeah, the rah rah American exceptionalism that blinds people to this fact is the biggest reason why the US sucks.

The US sucks, more people need to realize and embrace this fact so we can make it not suck.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah, the rah rah American exceptionalism that blinds people to this fact is the biggest reason why the US sucks.

The US sucks, more people need to realize and embrace this fact so we can make it not suck.

It’s one of my biggest issues with this country. All the people who say we have it best tend to be the ones who have never lived in another country. Dogging single payer systems and saying health care is a privilege not a right, ignoring how so many other nations spend less money, have better outcomes and give their people paid time off for things like babies and vacation. People in those nations are overall happier than people living here, and yet people think this is some sort of Mecca. The Netherlands has a much lower abortion rate and guess what, healthcare and contraception are available!

[RaceBoarder]

It’s one of my biggest issues with this country. All the people who say we have it best tend to be the ones who have never lived in another country. Dogging single payer systems and saying health care is a privilege not a right, ignoring how so many other nations spend less money, have better outcomes and give their people paid time off for things like babies and vacation. People in those nations are overall happier than people living here, and yet people think this is some sort of Mecca. The Netherlands has a much lower abortion rate and guess what, healthcare and contraception are available!

America is like a teenager that is rebelling against their parents. The kid (America) thinks they know everything and is oblivious to everything that isn't right in front of their face AND directly inconveniences them.

I love that America was born from rebellion. I love that we lead the charge in offering true freedom for individuals, something that a LOT of the world didn't have. Unfortunately education on this has become a Scarlett letter that 40% of country instantly dismisses... And **** the idea of bringing in a Theocracy.... In science we (should) trust!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

America is the land of "Me, Myself, and I". The Boomers are the worst of the lot, but there are plenty among the younger set who are just as selfish and obsessed with status symbols. Once you've got your stack, by whatever means necessary, **** everyone else.

[Jimjamesak]

It’s one of my biggest issues with this country. All the people who say we have it best tend to be the ones who have never lived in another country. Dogging single payer systems and saying health care is a privilege not a right, ignoring how so many other nations spend less money, have better outcomes and give their people paid time off for things like babies and vacation. People in those nations are overall happier than people living here, and yet people think this is some sort of Mecca. The Netherlands has a much lower abortion rate and guess what, healthcare and contraception are available!

Honestly, Kep’s attitude PO’s me more than anything because it’s just a whitewashed, inaccurate view of this country.

The US sucks because it’s always sucked. Even when this country was doing good things it was doing s-ty things.

The Constitution and The Bill of Rights! With a provision that counted slaves as 3/5ths of a person.

The New Deal! With redlining and Jim Crow laws.

Arsenal of Democracy! With segregated armed forces and internment camps.

Heck, the main reason why desegregation started wasn’t because people thought it was morally wrong, it was because it made us look bad in comparison to the communists.

**** this “E pluribus unum” and “In God We Trust” BS, our motto should be “America: Even when we’re doing something good, we’re doing something terrible.”

[Handyman]

You could also just say that the reason America is great is because it sucks. Even with as arrogant and racist as many of the founders were, many were smart enough to realize things can and do change and America is set up in a way where that is in fact possible. What makes America great is that it is striving to be perfect even though it is failing.

No place is truly great, every country is ****ed up and has their problems. Every time my gf brings up moving abroad because "America Sucks" I ask her where she wants to go that doesn't suck. (she has lived abroad before so I default to her) she spends 20 minutes thinking, sighs and then says nowhere. Because the truth is, we all ****ing suck we just suck in different ways.

And "American Exceptionalism" doesn't even rank amongst the most arrogant nationalistic beliefs. Ever been to Paris? They are like if American Arrogance and Southern Racism hate ****ed and had quintuplets. The British are so arrogant and up their own *** on things they not only had their own Trump but they allowed Brexit to happen. (and oh by the way can we talk about their racism) Asia? Good luck with that? South America...im sure that will be peaceful. America is the worst, except for everyone else. (and vice versa)

We all suck, the difference is America used to be about trying to stop sucking. Now the Right pretends we are in Camelot on every social issue and the Left pretends it is 1856. All progress is bad progress because it either goes too far or not far enough depending who you ask. America sucks because we stopped pushing forward.

[Slap Shot]

America has its share of problems to be sure, but having lived and traveled to many other countries it's not alone by any stretch. The cons are ugly and they always are, but the pros are as good as anyplace else I've ever been.