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  • Swansong
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    Key to their decision was that doctors do not have to appeal to the courts to perform an abortion under the minuscule exemptions allowed by state law. They denied this one because the doctor was only subjectively certain it was necessary, whereas the law requires objective certainty. Further, even if they do declare it objectively necessary, they will be subject to legal and criminal review. Which means on one hand they're telling people that abortions are not fully banned, but also that if you do them you'll go to jail.


    If I'm an insurance company providing malpractice/other insurance to providers, am I just leaving Texas at this point? How would an OB provider be remotely insurable under these circumstances?




    I know, I know. Feature, not bug.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Texas Supreme Court rules against her but she’s apparently already gone

    I have zero doubt they’d send troopers to try and find her. If you think I’m being hysterical you can DIAF
    It's Dred Scott: Women Edition. Alito will write a decision that women are not citizens of the United States and, therefore, cannot expect any protection from the federal government or the courts. As stare decisis he'll site 1 Cor 11.
    Last edited by Kepler; 12-12-2023, 10:34 AM.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    This is a false dilemma. The current situation is the house is on fire, someone is trapped inside. You are outside but they want you to climb inside and burn too.
    Full analogy: House is on fire, someone is trapped inside, and they threaten to charge you with murder if you don't rush in to drag out what is likely already a corpse.

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  • Swansong
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    This is a false dilemma. The current situation is the house is on fire, someone is trapped inside. You are outside but they want you to climb inside and burn too.

    This whole thing is surreal. We have a non-medical scumbag claiming the women should sue the Dr instead of the State. The same heinous waste of oxygen says he will sue any Dr for doing what is medically indicated and a court OKd. Non-medical, unqualified people, who have not taken the oath of do no harm, are making decisions that are harming women. My head cannot wrap itself around how they are getting away with preventing standard medical care. If you didn't offer this in a State that allowed standard medical care you would be sued for negligence.
    Of course it is a false dilemma. It's a preposterous argument if you give it even a little bit of scrutiny. But it sounds reasonable, and that's all that matters.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Texas Supreme Court rules against her but she’s apparently already gone

    I have zero doubt they’d send troopers to try and find her. If you think I’m being hysterical you can DIAF

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  • leswp1
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post
    I keep coming back to this justification I first heard years ago, and still hear it at various times, to defend the "no abortion even if the life of the mother is at risk". It was ridiculous then as it is now, but I've been hearing it pop up again, and so many people just nod along in agreement without giving even a seconds' thought to how stupid and trite it is.


    The argument:
    If your house is on fire and someone is trapped inside, beyond the ability to escape. Do you shoot them? No. You pray for a miracle.



    "Pray for a miracle" sounds lovely, doesn't it? I mean, sure. It sounds lovely to idiots, of which we have many. But beyond that bit of silly nonsense, this misses the point stupendously.


    I think that could be another GQP credo: "missing the point, stupendously".
    This is a false dilemma. The current situation is the house is on fire, someone is trapped inside. You are outside but they want you to climb inside and burn too.

    This whole thing is surreal. We have a non-medical scumbag claiming the women should sue the Dr instead of the State. The same heinous waste of oxygen says he will sue any Dr for doing what is medically indicated and a court OKd. Non-medical, unqualified people, who have not taken the oath of do no harm, are making decisions that are harming women. My head cannot wrap itself around how they are getting away with preventing standard medical care. If you didn't offer this in a State that allowed standard medical care you would be sued for negligence.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by bronconick View Post
    I hope she was across the state line when that statement was released, otherwise, she'll probably get hunted down by the Texas Rangers or some other absurd ****.
    This ad should run 24/7 until every Republican has lost every elected office.

    We have endured these fascist f-cks for forty years. No more.


    Last edited by Kepler; 12-11-2023, 05:50 PM.

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  • bronconick
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    I hope she was across the state line when that statement was released, otherwise, she'll probably get hunted down by the Texas Rangers or some other absurd ****.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Kate cox has left Texas to seek an abortion.

    Guessing lawsuits already being filed
    Why would you go back to Nazi Germany after you left?

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Kate cox has left Texas to seek an abortion.

    Guessing lawsuits already being filed
    I bet there are at least a hundred lawyers willing to represent them pro bono by now.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Kate cox has left Texas to seek an abortion.

    Guessing lawsuits already being filed

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  • Swansong
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    I keep coming back to this justification I first heard years ago, and still hear it at various times, to defend the "no abortion even if the life of the mother is at risk". It was ridiculous then as it is now, but I've been hearing it pop up again, and so many people just nod along in agreement without giving even a seconds' thought to how stupid and trite it is.


    The argument:
    If your house is on fire and someone is trapped inside, beyond the ability to escape. Do you shoot them? No. You pray for a miracle.



    "Pray for a miracle" sounds lovely, doesn't it? I mean, sure. It sounds lovely to idiots, of which we have many. But beyond that bit of silly nonsense, this misses the point stupendously.


    I think that could be another GQP credo: "missing the point, stupendously".

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Don't know if anyone else say the interview with Mitt Romney on Meet the Press yesterday but he is a-ok with how Texas treats it's pregnant women. No problems at all with it.
    I’m confused, a Mormon man is willing to treat women as nothing more than chattel? My mind is blown.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Don't know if anyone else say the interview with Mitt Romney on Meet the Press yesterday but he is a-ok with how Texas treats it's pregnant women. No problems at all with it.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Honestly maybe 20 or more of these cases with women dying would be helpful.

    gerrymandering alone cannot explain Texas.

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