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  • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    This is a false dilemma. The current situation is the house is on fire, someone is trapped inside. You are outside but they want you to climb inside and burn too.
    Full analogy: House is on fire, someone is trapped inside, and they threaten to charge you with murder if you don't rush in to drag out what is likely already a corpse.
    If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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    • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
      Texas Supreme Court rules against her but she’s apparently already gone

      I have zero doubt they’d send troopers to try and find her. If you think I’m being hysterical you can DIAF
      It's Dred Scott: Women Edition. Alito will write a decision that women are not citizens of the United States and, therefore, cannot expect any protection from the federal government or the courts. As stare decisis he'll site 1 Cor 11.
      Last edited by Kepler; 12-12-2023, 10:34 AM.
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      • Key to their decision was that doctors do not have to appeal to the courts to perform an abortion under the minuscule exemptions allowed by state law. They denied this one because the doctor was only subjectively certain it was necessary, whereas the law requires objective certainty. Further, even if they do declare it objectively necessary, they will be subject to legal and criminal review. Which means on one hand they're telling people that abortions are not fully banned, but also that if you do them you'll go to jail.


        If I'm an insurance company providing malpractice/other insurance to providers, am I just leaving Texas at this point? How would an OB provider be remotely insurable under these circumstances?




        I know, I know. Feature, not bug.
        I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

          As stare decisis he'll cite 1 Cor 11.
          Gut laugh
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          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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          Originally posted by Kepler
          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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          • Originally posted by Swansong View Post
            Key to their decision was that doctors do not have to appeal to the courts to perform an abortion under the minuscule exemptions allowed by state law. They denied this one because the doctor was only subjectively certain it was necessary, whereas the law requires objective certainty. Further, even if they do declare it objectively necessary, they will be subject to legal and criminal review. Which means on one hand they're telling people that abortions are not fully banned, but also that if you do them you'll go to jail.


            If I'm an insurance company providing malpractice/other insurance to providers, am I just leaving Texas at this point? How would an OB provider be remotely insurable under these circumstances?




            I know, I know. Feature, not bug.
            If I'm an OB, I'd absolutely leave these states. I'm not risking jail time for widely accepted and proper medical advice. Like, I feel bad for the women of these states, but you absolutely have to look after yourself and your family first, full stop.
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            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
            Originally posted by Kepler
            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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            • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

              If I'm an OB, I'd absolutely leave these states. I'm not risking jail time for widely accepted and proper medical advice. Like, I feel bad for the women of these states, but you absolutely have to look after yourself and your family first, full stop.
              There was a time when the Jews could still leave Germany. That's where we are with the red states. But the window is closing.

              It isn't as if conservatives have not been clearly stating what it is they aim to do, for the last half century. Now they have the Court to do it.

              The choice for the human population in the orc lands is penniless immigrant or dead. Get out while you can; for your kids if not yourself.
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              • Docs are moving. It will drive out more sane people which is the goal. Red becomes redder.

                so many people in Texas don’t bother to vote. And I’m not convinced this will move any of them

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                • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                  Docs are moving. It will drive out more sane people which is the goal. Red becomes redder.

                  so many people in Texas don’t bother to vote. And I’m not convinced this will move any of them
                  Do you have any links to the brain drain? I'd love to share elsewhere.

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                  • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

                    Do you have any links to the brain drain? I'd love to share elsewhere.
                    I’ll see if I can find it. One of the ones I remember was two separate same sex couples in Oklahoma and LA. The LA doc was one of tbr only pediatric surgeons around but he fled. And two women docs detailed how they fled Oklahoma City for dc as they felt it was no longer safe to practice (they were OBs)

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                    • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

                      Do you have any links to the brain drain? I'd love to share elsewhere.
                      Here are a couple. I've read 7-8 over the past 6 months.

                      https://19thnews.org/2023/06/abortio...leaving-texas/
                      Already, medical schools are collecting data showing just that (recruiting to TX becoming harder). Across the board, 2023 figures show a decrease in medical students applying to residencies — the multi-year training program for newly graduated doctors — in states with abortion bans. In Texas, the drop is particularly sizable.

                      Starting in 2022, months after the state’s six-week abortion ban took effect, the number of medical students applying to Texas-based OBGYN residencies fell by 10.4 percent, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges — while across the country, the number of applicants increased.
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/u...nity-care.html
                      All told, more than a dozen labor and delivery doctors — including five of Idaho’s nine longtime maternal-fetal experts — will have either left or retired by the end of this year. Dr. Gustafson says the departures have made a bad situation worse, depriving both patients and doctors of moral support and medical advice.
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                      • Several OBGYNs left Idaho recently too. Leaving a big area of the state without any OBGYNs are a maternity ward at all.

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                        • It's surprising no one on that side considers that a problem. It's positively fascinating how ****ed up in the head they all are.
                          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                          • I'm very very confident that OB/GYN numbers are tracked somewhere at a .gov
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                            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                            • Thank you Talons.

                              No party is more fake when it comes to the well-being of children. Republicans aren't pro-life – they only care about controlling what isn’t theirs.

                              https://dailyyonder.com/commentary-r...fe/2022/05/24/

                              https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...an-republicans

                              https://www.marieclaire.com/politics...arms-children/

                              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/post_9368_b_7176896

                              https://www.wpr.org/us-sen-ron-johns...responsibility

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...omen-children/

                              https://www.salon.com/2022/05/25/don...nary-children/

                              Also against the backdrop of the, "killing babies" shrieking some facts that they will never acknowledge:

                              There has never been a verified case of a fetus surviving outside the womb born in less than 21 weeks form gestation.
                              Only 1% of all abortions occur after the 21st weeks
                              Of those the vast majority are performed for medical reasons such as risking the life of the mother and/or the fetus has no chance of survival for other reasons.

                              By all practical reasons it should never be medically referred to a "baby" inside of 22 weeks.

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                              • I am pretty sure I have heard Tulane in NoLa is having issues as well.
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