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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post

    Well, to be fair- it is a self sustaining industry. It creates a disjointed, decentralized, convoluted work stream that reinvents itself continuously in ways that have nothing to do with functionality for the person using it. Add in all the glitches, errors, loss or change of functions with each new 'improvement' and the folks in IT have a guaranteed job. The worker bees get to have increased work load, redundancy, while listening to people tell them the system streamlines, simplifies and allows less errors
    Welcome to Consulting!

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  • leswp1
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    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

    LOL. I've been an IT Professional since 1996. It's not value add, it's not customer service driven. At best it's overhead like electricity. Nothing more, nothing less. Since 1996 IT has done more to destroy the planet, and workplace than it has done to improve it.
    Well, to be fair- it is a self sustaining industry. It creates a disjointed, decentralized, convoluted work stream that reinvents itself continuously in ways that have nothing to do with functionality for the person using it. Add in all the glitches, errors, loss or change of functions with each new 'improvement' and the folks in IT have a guaranteed job. The worker bees get to have increased work load, redundancy, while listening to people tell them the system streamlines, simplifies and allows less errors

    *maybe not true for some industries but the medical side research showing increased work load, decreased productivity and no statistical improvement for outcomes. Now if you are data mining.....

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

    IT is a value-add if it's supporting critical business services (and in almost all hospitals today, it is).
    LOL. I've been an IT Professional since 1996. It's not value add, it's not customer service driven. At best it's overhead like electricity. Nothing more, nothing less. Since 1996 IT has done more to destroy the planet, and workplace than it has done to improve it.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    This.

    it almost killed my employer when a prior CEO tried to do this. Just terrible and every executive under Jack Welch should be thrown in a volcano.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

    We don't use it at all. However I previously had to certify for green belt when it looked liked the company was going to incorporate it en masse so I'm familiar with much of the terminology.

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  • Slap Shot
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Ironically, lean six sigma depts are some of the lowest value add to any org in history.
    We don't use it at all. However I previously had to certify for green belt when it looked liked the company was going to incorporate it en masse so I'm familiar with much of the terminology.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Ironically, lean six sigma depts are some of the lowest value add to any org in history.

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  • Slap Shot
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    Ok Six Sigma Lean graduates. IT is support.




    ;^P

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  • FadeToBlack&Gold
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post
    ... as if hospitals aren't spending obscene amounts of money already on utterly non-value added functions, like claim management and appeals.


    (I'll dig in and insist that the work I do on the IT/connectivity side is value added)
    IT is a value-add if it's supporting critical business services (and in almost all hospitals today, it is).

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  • Swansong
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    ... as if hospitals aren't spending obscene amounts of money already on utterly non-value added functions, like claim management and appeals.


    (I'll dig in and insist that the work I do on the IT/connectivity side is value added)

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  • leswp1
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post
    Key to their decision was that doctors do not have to appeal to the courts to perform an abortion under the minuscule exemptions allowed by state law. They denied this one because the doctor was only subjectively certain it was necessary, whereas the law requires objective certainty. Further, even if they do declare it objectively necessary, they will be subject to legal and criminal review. Which means on one hand they're telling people that abortions are not fully banned, but also that if you do them you'll go to jail.


    If I'm an insurance company providing malpractice/other insurance to providers, am I just leaving Texas at this point? How would an OB provider be remotely insurable under these circumstances?




    I know, I know. Feature, not bug.
    Been saying this for quite some time- there is no way to be safe and practice in the Handmaiden States. If I am licensed in MA and TX I cannot practice without being in jeopardy. If I provide appropriate standard care I will be charged in TX. If I do not provide or offer this care in MA then I am negligent. If I don't provide and offer care in either State you can sue me for not providing or offering an avenue to receive appropriate care. This can affect licensure, board cert status. The Handmaiden States may legislate to ban appropriate care but this does not change expected Standard of Care.

    Further- even if someone is providing appropriate care anyone can make an accusation of doing something illegal. There is no way to protect from frivolous lawsuits. This means paying for lawyers/legal advice to deal with every accusation or the potential for one. (not to mention all the time wasted consulting, preparing for court, etc).

    Hospitals are already consulting legal (non-medical) depts and requiring Docs to get clearance to provide care

    Premiums are skyrocketing. We were always taught to carry our own insurance- this is no completely impossible. Insurers can decide to settle rather than go to court without any input/consulting the Provider being sued. The The Provider has no recourse. The client is not the Provider it is the hospital. They have no problem sacrificing the Provider.

    You would have to be out of your fvcking mind to practice in these States which are already healthcare deserts between the lack of funding and the lack of appropriate resources for the Provider and family.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

    Deity Disease. Sky Daddy knows best.
    And ignorance. I have a homeschooled coworker who genuinely believes the scientific evidence for divine creation is as strong as for evolution, because his "teachers" (parents) and all his reading material, and all his peers, say that.

    Once a population self-isolates, they can recycle their myths forever.

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  • FadeToBlack&Gold
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    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    I again will never understand any woman voting for this.
    Deity Disease. Sky Daddy knows best.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post

    I mean, they have to? Otherwise the 5th circuit ruling stands, and it wasn't exactly great.
    Ah **** you're right. I forgot the score

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    So the *******s of the SCOTUS are going to be taking up the issue of mifepristone

    NOT GREAT
    I mean, they have to? Otherwise the 5th circuit ruling stands, and it wasn't exactly great.

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