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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

    Have you reconsidered retiring there?
    We will retire where she lives. If she moves we will redirect.

    It's too bad because all the truly beautiful states (AZ, UT, ID, parts of WY) are DerpWorld.

    Maybe NM.

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  • Slap Shot
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    My daughter teaches in AZ and I counsel her to leave the state ASAP.
    Have you reconsidered retiring there?

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Red states are a strict nonstarter for potential jobs at this point.

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  • Swansong
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    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

    I've been wondering about this. Obviously the top students have the luxury of picking their residency from multiple offers, but where does that leave the other 70-80% of med school grads?
    Fewer options, obviously, but still many. There are always more positions open than healthcare providers.

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  • Kepler
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    My daughter teaches in AZ and I counsel her to leave the state ASAP.

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  • FadeToBlack&Gold
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    The States that are legislating medicine are seeing Residents avoid them, an inability to fill job openings in all levels. Who in Hell would chance working in one of those States? You could rightfully lose your Board certification, get sued for negligence.
    I've been wondering about this. Obviously the top students have the luxury of picking their residency from multiple offers, but where does that leave the other 70-80% of med school grads?

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Who won in Florida whwre mommy birthed a baby with no kidneys who immediately died?

    ron desantis I guess.

    now NC making women hear that their terminally sick fetus “might live for a few mins outside the womb” like the women forced to be vaginally wanded before an abortion?

    anytime a dude wants viagra let’s do a full examination of his urethra. You want a gun? Bend over
    I would rather women just be given their health care rights. But if that is what it takes I am willing to sacrifice.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Who won in Florida whwre mommy birthed a baby with no kidneys who immediately died?

    ron desantis I guess.

    now NC making women hear that their terminally sick fetus “might live for a few mins outside the womb” like the women forced to be vaginally wanded before an abortion?

    anytime a dude wants viagra let’s do a full examination of his urethra. You want a gun? Bend over

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  • leswp1
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post

    I have worked with compliance and legal folks a bunch over the past few years, and while I normally don't feel bad for them, I truly do in this case.

    As DGF pointed out - do we risk violating state law and having my OBs and hospitalists arrested? Or do we violate federal law and risk losing Medicare funding? Obviously, federal law takes priority but with this SCOTUS...

    Also, even if federal law wins in the end, do I, as a compliance officer, want my staff at risk of ****ing arrest?


    How is any of this good for anyone?
    It isn't, but they have so little ability to consider consequence it is like the fairy stories where the character harms themselves while cheering they have won. People are so addicted to promoting outrage and claiming they are winning they think little of what winning will actually result in. The States that are legislating medicine are seeing Residents avoid them, an inability to fill job openings in all levels. Who in Hell would chance working in one of those States? You could rightfully lose your Board certification, get sued for negligence. We really are watching the dismantling of everything that would qualify us as a civilized developed country. Arts, healthcare, safety, education- all under assault from the wackos.

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  • Kepler
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    It's good for the GQP thumping the tub to rile the rubes.

    The real world consequences do not matter, because they only care about themselves, and they will always get exactly the treatment they want, on their terms. What happens to other people is not relevant.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post

    I have worked with compliance and legal folks a bunch over the past few years, and while I normally don't feel bad for them, I truly do in this case.

    As DGF pointed out - do we risk violating state law and having my OBs and hospitalists arrested? Or do we violate federal law and risk losing Medicare funding? Obviously, federal law takes priority but with this SCOTUS...

    Also, even if federal law wins in the end, do I, as a compliance officer, want my staff at risk of ****ing arrest?


    How is any of this good for anyone?
    Not good for anyone and I agree with you 100%.

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  • Swansong
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    Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
    What I have been posting all along. And they wonder why the medical profession is leaving in droves. People are stupid.

    Weighing in on the woman who didn't think about abortion until she needed one- It is entirely possible that she truly didn't think about the abortion issue and could be ignorant about all the possible problems these laws could create. Not because she is willfully ignorant but because she has little if any exposure to media that would cover it or to people who have had issues.

    When I was first in Practice what was revealed about pregnancy was minimal. Women didn't tell they were pregnant until past 12 weeks, if there was a problem with the pregnancy or a miscarriage women did not share this outside immediate family (sometimes only the husband knew). There were a lot of things that were NEVER discussed outside of my exam room. No one talked about this stuff on TV. There was no social media, sharing of sad or scary stories. This was the norm. Over the time I practiced this gradually changed in the area I lived. The culture is now incredibly open- people talk about EVERYTHING in minute detail. Not everywhere is like this- there are some places where this stuff is still not discussed. Not because they are oppressed but because this is considered private and not something people talk about. For those who live in more open cultures it is inconceivable that women wouldn't talk about it and everyone must be exposed to all sorts of info.

    I know I have talked to people who have minimal media available to them and what is presented certainly does not encourage thought about implications. If you don't have enough info then you may not know to have questions.

    Have had more than a few exchanges with people who have made comments that show they are completely unaware. When I point out things- like remaining pregnant could put a woman at physical risk medically, at risk from partner violence, at financial risk if they have pregnancy complications that preclude working, they are stunned- they never entertained theses things. It may not change their minds but they are usually shocked. No one has ever talked about the consequences of continuing pregnancy. In the echo chamber they only get as far as the moral outrage of killing the baby.
    I have worked with compliance and legal folks a bunch over the past few years, and while I normally don't feel bad for them, I truly do in this case.

    As DGF pointed out - do we risk violating state law and having my OBs and hospitalists arrested? Or do we violate federal law and risk losing Medicare funding? Obviously, federal law takes priority but with this SCOTUS...

    Also, even if federal law wins in the end, do I, as a compliance officer, want my staff at risk of ****ing arrest?


    How is any of this good for anyone?

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    This is ****ing sick

    https://twitter.com/jessicavalenti/s...3v2cVkMjQylOVg

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  • MissThundercat
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    End the Right
    Save the world
    Mussolini was hanged. There's an idea for you!

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  • Kepler
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    End the Right
    Save the world

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