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  • Originally posted by unofan View Post

    Tell whatever Facebook University that gave you a B.S. degree in law that you want your money back. Because the A10 is a mediocre basketball conference, and continually trying to make it a thing makes you sound as stupid as your boy Trump talking about Two Corinthians.
    If the best you can do is complain about an abbreviation ... so allow me to update yet reiterate:

    This will go ... Tenth Amendment (A10), and the battle will be in States. Not each State will have the same outcome. And yet we'll have laws that better stand the Constitutionality test.

    What's the problem? The abbreviation, the different outcomes per State, or the better laws that stand up (and that RBG foresaw the need of).

    Going to the States is closer to democracy, closer to the voters, in our Republic. That's a good thing.
    The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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    • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

      If the best you can do is complain about an abbreviation ... so allow me to update yet reiterate:

      This will go ... Tenth Amendment (A10), and the battle will be in States. Not each State will have the same outcome. And yet we'll have laws that better stand the Constitutionality test.

      What's the problem? The abbreviation, the different outcomes per State, or the better laws that stand up (and that RBG foresaw the need of).

      Going to the States is closer to democracy, closer to the voters, in our Republic. That's a good thing.
      Tell that to the 13 year old girl in Texas who is being forced to term carrying her Daddy's baby.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

        Tell that to the 13 year old girl in Texas who is being forced to term carrying her Daddy's baby.
        That 13 year old should just move to another state if she doesn’t like it!

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        • Originally posted by Swansong View Post
          Even if this dumb side track meant anything, I fundamentally disagree with RBG on this. The anti-abortion crowd will never stop until all abortion is criminalized everywhere.
          Wrong. They don’t want birth control either. They want women controlled and punished over their bodies

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          • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
            Going to the States is closer to democracy, closer to the voters, in our Republic. That's a good thing.
            No. We fought a civil war over this. The states are not closer to democracy and not closer to the voters, just a different lens to view them through. Otherwise have towns overrule states and HOAs overrule towns.

            This is merely the subversion of law by the strong -- the conservative tale as old as time. Control a few corrupt and rotten states and then create a race to the bottom.

            The mistake we made was not letting the secessionists go and we have been paying for it for 150 years. Don't wait this time -- kick them out.
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            • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              A10 can go fuck itself.
              It was needed to get passage of the Constitution like the other slavery compromises; the Southern Anti-Federalists would have been too strong otherwise.

              In retrospect it doesn't mean anything. SCOTUS itself has ruled that it is, literally, empty of meaning. It's now used as a dodge by the Right when they want to ignore federal law. It would be a joke except the Court has been dominated by right wingers who don't care about principle for the last 30 years, and just ram their bullsh-t down our throats.


              Last edited by Kepler; 05-18-2022, 11:01 AM.
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              • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                This will go ... Tenth Amendment (A10)
                No, it won't. It may go to the states, but not because of the 10th Amendment.

                And bless your heart. I know you're doing the best you can, but you still sound like a moron, Biff.
                Last edited by unofan; 05-18-2022, 11:03 AM.

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                • We had something that stood the Constitutionality test for 50 years, and protected everyone's rights in all of the states in the meantime.

                  RBG may have said RvW was counter-productive, but she did not say it was wrong. Given no major abortion case came to the Court while she was on it, we don't know how she would have ruled, to be fair; but her comments during her confirmation process make it sound like she would have upheld the basic outcome of RvW while finessing the reasoning a hell of a lot more; basically with an additional 20 years of hindsight she would have anticipated the opposition to it and issued a decision in a manner to better defend the decision against it. But a decision can be counter-productive but still right. An abortion ruling that protects people in every state from laws that go against their rights might end up being a political matchstick that inflames tensions for multiple decades, but a SCOTUS decision isn't meant to ensure everyone gets together and sings Kumbaya. A lot of people were ****ed about Brown vs Board, that doesn't mean we throw it away because some rednecks get their feelings hurt.

                  Voters in our democracy can and should do a lot of things, but they don't get to make rules that take away basic rights on a whim. That's why we have judicial review. That's an even better thing.

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                  Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                  iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                  gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                  Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                  Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                  TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                  DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                  Test to see if I can add this.

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                  • The magical thing is, if abortion is legal in a state, women still aren’t forced to get them! Imagine that

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                    • My understanding of RGB's point was that Roe was correct to protect choice but it did not do so on the main point, which is equal protection under the law for women. Anti-choice laws should be struck down under A14 rather than the privacy penumbra of Roe reinforced by Casey.

                      Well, now we get a chance to do it correctly while also enshrining countless other protections for women and burning Y'all Qaeda completely out of the Constitution forever. We told the animals "don't make me come down there" for fifty years. They fucked around and now they can find out.


                      Last edited by Kepler; 05-18-2022, 11:46 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                        The magical thing is, if abortion is legal in a state, women still aren’t forced to get them! Imagine that
                        It's hatred of someone else's options. That is the conservative soul. I can't understand this book so you can't read it either. My faith won't let me educate my child so you can't educate yours either.

                        A conservative is a failure who would force everyone else to fail so he won't have to face the consequences of his ineptitude.
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                        • What other civil rights should be delegated to the whims of individual states? Since anything not specifically enumerated isn't really a "right" anymore?
                          I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            A14
                            Don't encourage him with this shiat.

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                            • This, right here.

                              men can shut the fuck up

                              https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...a-TB9bzHM5-Cpw

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                              • Dr Robinson is my hero.

                                Just an embarrassing spectacle from republican men

                                https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...54TX5ecZaeciUg

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