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  • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    What happens when a state with no resources just... fails?
    What happens? Conservatism.

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    • So Manchin said he's open to changing filibuster rules to a "talking filibuster" where you have to stay on the floor and speak. Yes please.
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      • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
        So Manchin said he's open to changing filibuster rules to a "talking filibuster" where you have to stay on the floor and speak. Yes please.
        Outstanding. Manchin > Sinema right now. Sinema disappoints me far beyond Manchin. Sinema doesn’t have any excuse for her behavior.

        Rufus, Biden said something along the lines of “I’m going to sell this bill to the American people. I told Barack to do that with the stimulus package in 2009, and he was too modest. We paid a price in the midterms.” Biden, for all his flaws, isn’t going to repeat some of those mistakes that Obama made.

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        • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          So Manchin said he's open to changing filibuster rules to a "talking filibuster" where you have to stay on the floor and speak. Yes please.
          So..... what is a filibuster now? Who changed the jimmy stewart rules??
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          • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

            So..... what is a filibuster now? Who changed the jimmy stewart rules??
            Robert Byrd and Howard Baker.

            Another requirement they got rid of was 51 Senators always having to be personally in the chamber. Reinstating that would help stop the bullsh-t.
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            • For lack of a better thread, LWT's piece on unemployment was tremendous as are most main stories they do.

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              • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                So Manchin said he's open to changing filibuster rules to a "talking filibuster" where you have to stay on the floor and speak. Yes please.
                I believe I said that on here like ten years ago or more.

                The filibuster wasn't meant to be just, "we're gonna filibuster, so now you need 60 votes for this bill". You had to work if you wanted to filibuster something. You wanna delay something, fine. Get your *** up there and delay. Put a little effort in.
                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                  What happens? Conservatism.

                  Ahhh, the old Appalachian hillbillies, dust bowl states.
                  What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                  • Originally posted by psych View Post

                    Outstanding. Manchin > Sinema right now. Sinema disappoints me far beyond Manchin. Sinema doesn’t have any excuse for her behavior.

                    Rufus, Biden said something along the lines of “I’m going to sell this bill to the American people. I told Barack to do that with the stimulus package in 2009, and he was too modest. We paid a price in the midterms.” Biden, for all his flaws, isn’t going to repeat some of those mistakes that Obama made.
                    Then he better get selling, cause I haven't heard a whole lot of PR stuff coming from the WH. Maybe after final passage, but they gotta get moving. They gotta learn how to play the game. Cause we're allready hearing from the Repubs just how this bill hurts people, whether its true or not.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • Originally posted by rufus View Post

                      Then he better get selling, cause I haven't heard a whole lot of PR stuff coming from the WH. Maybe after final passage, but they gotta get moving. They gotta learn how to play the game. Cause we're allready hearing from the Repubs just how this bill hurts people, whether its true or not.
                      I hear you. I think Republicans know it’s going to pass so they’re starting early, and Biden is waiting for it to hit his desk so that he’s not counting the chickens before they hatch. I think they’ll pound home the $1,400 stimulus checks and the expanded tax credits for families with children. Those are yuge, and all without Republican votes. “Republicans don’t give a fuck about your families.” Nice ring to it.

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                      • Originally posted by rufus View Post

                        Then he better get selling, cause I haven't heard a whole lot of PR stuff coming from the WH. Maybe after final passage, but they gotta get moving. They gotta learn how to play the game. Cause we're allready hearing from the Repubs just how this bill hurts people, whether its true or not.
                        From my derpy friends on Facebook, I'm seeing far more, "this money just goes to big corporations!" sort of talk. Which, if they *really* thought it was true, they wouldn't be complaining about. They're not the sharpest tools.
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                        • Originally posted by psych View Post

                          I hear you. I think Republicans know it’s going to pass so they’re starting early, and Biden is waiting for it to hit his desk so that he’s not counting the chickens before they hatch. I think they’ll pound home the $1,400 stimulus checks and the expanded tax credits for families with children. Those are yuge, and all without Republican votes. “Republicans don’t give a fuck about your families.” Nice ring to it.
                          Kiddies get a check too? 1,400 for all ‘muricans with AGI less than 75k?
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                          • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post

                            Kiddies get a check too? 1,400 for all ‘muricans with AGI less than 75k?
                            Far as I can tell, yes sir.

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                            • Asked if he (Lindsey Graham) could afford to abandon Trump because he is not up for re-election until 2026, Graham said: “Yeah, I could throw him over tomorrow … I could say you know that’s it’s over, it’s done. That’s just too easy.

                              “What’s hard is to take a movement that I think is good for the country, trying to get the leader of the movement, who’s got lots of problems facing him and the party and see if we can make a go of it.

                              ‘Mitt Romney [the 2012 nominee] didn’t do it, John McCain didn’t do it. There’s something about Trump. There’s a dark side. And there’s some magic there. What I’m trying to do is just harness the magic.

                              “To me, Donald Trump is sort of a cross between Jesse Helms, Ronald Reagan and PT Barnum. I mean, just bigger than life.”
                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...arty-interview

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                              • Originally posted by psych View Post

                                Far as I can tell, yes sir.
                                Just to be clear: *tax filers* get an extra check for each dependent they claim. The amount of the check is the same as the one the taxpayer gets for herself/themselves, based on the taxpayer's eligibility (<$75K AGI for individual, <$150K AGI for joint filers, phasing out to $0 at $100K/200K). That is to say: my kids will not get checks, even though *their* AGI is $0. Unlike previous stimulus checks, tax filers will get additional increments (up to the $1400) for adult dependents as well as minors.
                                If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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