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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    PR and DC. 100 is a magic number, once it's broken we can take care of a lot of unfinished business.

    If the conservatives love 100 so much they can roll ND/SD and ID/MT together.
    Tying PR to DC will just fuck PR over. That guarantees PR won't get statehood right now.

    DC is more complicated than PR since carving off the city proper from the federal district means the federal district still gets 3 electoral votes. That's okay with me right now because that means Joe and Jill Biden get three electoral votes, since they'd be the only remaining residents of the district, but I suspect this is something we'd want to address...

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    • I never said tie them together.

      Obvs we'll never get DC as long as the GOP can stop it.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I never said tie them together.
        I've heard some of the sponsors of a DC statehood bill want to tie them together, which is a huge mistake.

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        • Originally posted by BassAle View Post

          I've heard some of the sponsors of a DC statehood bill want to tie them together, which is a huge mistake.
          I can see why DC would want to do it. But it does not make sense overall.

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          • Only in America does Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley get to question Wray instead of the other way around. Only in America does Republicans get to run around committing crimes with no repercussions while Neera Tanden gets left on the side of the road, especially after all the nutjobs Trump had in his administration.

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            • OTOH, Neera Tanden sucks.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                OTOH, Neera Tanden sucks.
                Yep. Shalanda Young sounds like a better candidate anyways.

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                • Originally posted by psych View Post

                  Yep. Shalanda Young sounds like a better candidate anyways.
                  She was an Approps committee staffer. Those are the people who actually know what is going on. They are the opposite of politicians. They are the ones who saved us from the Nazis.
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                  • It sounds like they’re keeping the full stimulus check cap as it was for the previous two (75k single and 150k couple), but the phase out cap will be lowered to 80k and 160k. Originally it was 100k and 200k.
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                    • Turtle Boy is crying crocodile tears over the Covid Bill. The man that ram rodded Judges and Tax Cuts for Bezos without regard for anyone or anything.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiDH1pXJes
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                      • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Turtle Boy is crying crocodile tears over the Covid Bill. The man that ram rodded Judges and Tax Cuts for Bezos without regard for anyone or anything.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiDH1pXJes
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                        • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                          It sounds like they’re keeping the full stimulus check cap as it was for the previous two (75k single and 150k couple), but the phase out cap will be lowered to 80k and 160k. Originally it was 100k and 200k.
                          This is going to be painful for D’s in 2022. Unbelievably stupid blunder. The thing that gets me even more is there is tons of relief for rich people and you’re not going to throw a bone to people who are middle class to upper middle class depending on where you live?

                          If those were the brackets they used in prior rounds it would make sense but count on that being something republicans make a big deal over and people eating it up.
                          Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                          Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                          • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post

                            This is going to be painful for D’s in 2022. Unbelievably stupid blunder. The thing that gets me even more is there is tons of relief for rich people and you’re not going to throw a bone to people who are middle class to upper middle class depending on where you live?

                            If those were the brackets they used in prior rounds it would make sense but count on that being something republicans make a big deal over and people eating it up.
                            I don’t think it’s a giant blunder, but it’s certainly one that could have been avoided. The single person making 90k probably isn’t going to miss a $200 check. Where it probably hurts is families and the child payments now phased out earlier, where that $200 check would also include a bonus per child. I’d be interested to see how much this saves, and why the moderate Dems are trying to penny pinch this portion of the bill.

                            At least it’s better than the prior rumors that 50k would be the full cap and 75k would be the phase out cap.
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                            • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post

                              I don’t think it’s a giant blunder, but it’s certainly one that could have been avoided. The single person making 90k probably isn’t going to miss a $200 check. Where it probably hurts is families and the child payments now phased out earlier, where that $200 check would also include a bonus per child. I’d be interested to see how much this saves, and why the moderate Dems are trying to penny pinch this portion of the bill.

                              At least it’s better than the prior rumors that 50k would be the full cap and 75k would be the phase out cap.
                              That’s exactly it. This isn’t going to move the needle very much as far as total cost. To be honest $200 for a family making $190k or whatever the formula is isn’t a ton of money, but I suspect people who don’t get anything who got money before will hold Dems responsible. And let’s not forget how close the margins have been in a lot of recent races. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
                              Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                              Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                              • Klobuchar supports killing the filibuster

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