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  • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
    It's not the big companies. It's the mom-and-pop house cleaning services who hire Les Miserables, pay them $7.25/hr, and collect $25/hr from the clients. And their equivalents.
    How much should their wages be if Employer charges 25 an hour?
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    • Originally posted by walrus View Post

      How much should their wages be if Employer charges 25 an hour?
      The contractor rule of thumb in my industry is the wrap rate (that's the total charge to the customer as a multiplier of the direct labor rate) is 2. The wrap covers the contracting firm's costs in developing and compensating the employee, plus a profit surcharge.

      There are small body shops that are notorious for existing simply to cash in the wrap. And a few large companies cough Booze Allen.
      Last edited by Kepler; 03-02-2021, 04:39 PM.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

        The contractor rule of thumb in my industry is the wrap rate (that's the total charge to the customer as a multiplier of the direct labor rate) is 2. The wrap covers the contracting firm's costs in developing and compensating the employee, plus a profit surcharge.

        There are small body shops that are notorious for existing simply to cash in the wrap. And a few large companies cough Booze Allen.
        Right. But those are for specialty contractors, where there is actual expertise involved. If you want to job shop talent to federal contractors, you need to know the DFARs, you probably need to sponsor and maintain security clearances, administer health care plans and 401(k)s, etc. In other words, there is actual work to do and relatively "scarce" expertise involved.

        To hire, schedule, and pay housecleaners? Anything more than 1.25 seems exploitative to me.
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        • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
          Right. But those are for specialty contractors, where there is actual expertise involved. If you want to job shop talent to federal contractors, you need to know the DFARs, you probably need to sponsor and maintain security clearances, administer health care plans and 401(k)s, etc. In other words, there is actual work to do and relatively "scarce" expertise involved.

          To hire, schedule, and pay housecleaners? Anything more than 1.25 seems exploitative to me.
          Oh I see.

          Yeah, I have no idea what those guys charge, though I assume a lot more cuz you know human trafficking.
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          • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
            Right. But those are for specialty contractors, where there is actual expertise involved. If you want to job shop talent to federal contractors, you need to know the DFARs, you probably need to sponsor and maintain security clearances, administer health care plans and 401(k)s, etc. In other words, there is actual work to do and relatively "scarce" expertise involved.

            To hire, schedule, and pay housecleaners? Anything more than 1.25 seems exploitative to me.
            So to not exploit the employees of a cleaning business making 7.25 an hour, the employer should be charging a wee bit over 9 bucks an hour to its customers?
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              Oh I see.

              Yeah, I have no idea what those guys charge, though I assume a lot more cuz you know human trafficking.
              True. Original payment to the coyote, and then the extortion payment after they cross the border.
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              • Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post

                True. Original payment to the coyote, and then the extortion payment after they cross the border.
                Campaign contributions to Republicans to keep their workforce illegal and terrified of imprisonment and death.

                Also known as "retention."
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                  • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                    At least a few GOP senators are on record supporting statehood for PR. Someone will filibuster though.


                    I think it should be done, but I don’t think those senate seats are a lock for democrats.
                    Last edited by BassAle; 03-02-2021, 10:06 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by BassAle View Post

                      may least a few GOP senators are on record supporting statehood for PR. Someone will filibuster though.


                      I think it should be done, but I don’t think those senate seats are a lock for democrats.
                      It should be a state because it’s right. I think most people understand it won’t be a lock for D senators but that doesn’t mean Dems shouldn’t push for it.

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                      • Get it done! Make PR a state!
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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                          The contractor rule of thumb in my industry is the wrap rate (that's the total charge to the customer as a multiplier of the direct labor rate) is 2. The wrap covers the contracting firm's costs in developing and compensating the employee, plus a profit surcharge.

                          There are small body shops that are notorious for existing simply to cash in the wrap. And a few large companies cough Booze Allen.
                          2-2.5 is the standard multiplier at my company. The term we've adopted. Many firms actually negotiate that number alone and not the base rates.
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                          • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                            Get it done! Make PR a state!
                            PR and DC. 100 is a magic number, once it's broken we can take care of a lot of unfinished business.

                            If the conservatives love 100 so much they can roll ND/SD and ID/MT together.
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                            • Originally posted by BassAle View Post

                              At least a few GOP senators are on record supporting statehood for PR. Someone will filibuster though.


                              I think it should be done, but I don’t think those senate seats are a lock for democrats.
                              Well there is nothing saying that it should only be one state. If they want it it should be done no matter who they choose to represent them.

                              As for GOP support I believe L'il Marco is on board...
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                              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                As for GOP support I believe L'il Marco is on board...
                                Rick Scott is on board too.

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