117th Congress: DEMS IN DISARRAY!!!111!!

[aparch]

They literally aren't gonna budge...

Beau had a really video today talking about how Dems could use this opportunity to leverage Quevin and I think it would be the time to do so. Basically use him to put pressure on the Sedition Caucus.

No. Six Republicans can cross over and end this.

Almost thirty Democrats aren't going to vote for Qevin just to get stabbed in the back by him next week.

[dxmnkd316]

Beau's thoughts.

I think sacrificing a few votes here is worth it. Nothing will get done over the next two years. The D's need to accept this. Then bash that over the R's heads in two years.

They can also force McCarthy to pull back all of his concessions.

This will aid in splitting the DERP party even more. This will impact how people vote in '24. The D's won't pick up votes. No, that number will basically stay steady. But R's are looking at a 70/30 or 60/40 split in theirs. That's a HUGE drop in the overall score. That's the endgame here. Drive that wedge. The R's are doing the heavy lifting... We're just nudging them along and adjusting things so that the hammer driving the wedge is more efficient at it =)

I'd rather they vote for speaker for two years than form committees and select committees, deceive the public, and waste my money.

[RaceBoarder]

I watched Beau's video and I like his idea but, as with you folks here, I don't trust McCarthy to keep his word.

But.

How much more enraged would it make these lunatics if they honestly thought that McCarthy would instead ally with Democrats?

Sorry for the double post, but Swan hit on the key note here...

This is no different than egging your younger sibling on because you know they will do something stupid as a result.

[RaceBoarder]

The only leverage the Dems will ever have is voting for Jeffries. They don't ally with Kevin. Not now, not a little, not ever.

name, rank, serial number.

You lose more leverage than you gain by having ANY sort of alliance with any Republican.

Beau's thoughts.

I think sacrificing a few votes here is worth it. Nothing will get done over the next two years. The D's need to accept this. Then bash that over the R's heads in two years.

They can also force McCarthy to pull back all of his concessions.

This will aid in splitting the DERP party even more. This will impact how people vote in '24. The D's won't pick up votes. No, that number will basically stay steady. But R's are looking at a 70/30 or 60/40 split in theirs. That's a HUGE drop in the overall score. That's the endgame here. Drive that wedge. The R's are doing the heavy lifting... We're just nudging them along and adjusting things so that the hammer driving the wedge is more efficient at it =)

[MissThundercat]

He's short on the 11th vote. Six R's voted not for him while still in the C's for the roll call.

But he can still be speaker with a Steelers win, a Patriots loss, and a Jaguars tie.

[Swansong]

I watched Beau's video and I like his idea but, as with you folks here, I don't trust McCarthy to keep his word.

But.

How much more enraged would it make these lunatics if they honestly thought that McCarthy would instead ally with Democrats?

[bronconick]

They literally aren't gonna budge...

Beau had a really video today talking about how Dems could use this opportunity to leverage Quevin and I think it would be the time to do so. Basically use him to put pressure on the Sedition Caucus.

You can't leverage him because McCarthy has no morals or standards. He denounced Trump on 1/6 then raced down there 48 hours later to suck his cock.

[Kepler]

Schumer is one of the only democrats he could get away with caning if he tried. VIrtually every other Democrat would start throwing punches (or staplers).

Maxine Waters will f-ck you up.

[bronconick]

If they wait until the number of votes passes 18, Matt Gaetz will probably lose interest and leave.

[dxmnkd316]

They literally aren't gonna budge...

Beau had a really video today talking about how Dems could use this opportunity to leverage Quevin and I think it would be the time to do so. Basically use him to put pressure on the Sedition Caucus.

The only leverage the Dems will ever have is voting for Jeffries. They don't ally with Kevin. Not now, not a little, not ever.

name, rank, serial number.

You lose more leverage than you gain by having ANY sort of alliance with any Republican.

[dxmnkd316]

I think that provision only holds if he wins which he just isn't going to. Actually I am not even sure that deal is still valid anymore.

I fly home from Mexico tomorrow...I figured by the time I made it he would give up the ghost but he and the Qrazies after playing a game of chicken and both are about to drive over the cliff. Ya hate to see it ;^)

No, I know. But who else are they going to vote for that doesn't give them a **** ton of concessions? Or is one of them, for that matter.

[RaceBoarder]

They literally aren't gonna budge...

Beau had a really video today talking about how Dems could use this opportunity to leverage Quevin and I think it would be the time to do so. Basically use him to put pressure on the Sedition Caucus.

[Handyman]

Exactly. The only thing that happens if the Dems stay is the GOP leadership has to weaken itself. A single vote to vacate is ****ing neutering whomever takes the gavel. The dem's most powerful spot is exactly right now. Anything deviation from the current status quo is a weakening of their position.

I think that provision only holds if he wins which he just isn't going to. Actually I am not even sure that deal is still valid anymore.

I fly home from Mexico tomorrow...I figured by the time I made it he would give up the ghost but he and the Qrazies after playing a game of chicken and both are about to drive over the cliff. Ya hate to see it ;^)

[aparch]

He's short on the 11th vote. Six R's voted not for him while still in the C's for the roll call.

[Jimjamesak]

This is the point where I’d get bored and start nominating random people and then vote for Jeffries anyway.