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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    Why should the Democrats help the Republicans when they have done nothing but sting us halfway across the river. Every time. For 50 years.
    His aim is to normalize the GOP's pathology as regular politics. He is not a sincere interlocutor.

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  • rufus
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

    Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

    European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

    For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.
    So tell six of your "moderate" Republicans to vote for Jeffries. He's consistently gotten more votes than anyone else.

    Or.....shut the eff up.

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  • Kepler
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    American politicians are great at coalition building. This issue here is Republicans are not politicians, and the GOP is not a political party. It is a terrorist organization bound to a cult.

    You do not negotiate with them. You keep them away from the silverware and the children.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    Why should the Democrats help the Republicans when they have done nothing but sting us halfway across the river. Every time. For 50 years.
    It has nothing to do with "helping." If you can find 218 votes, you can control the chair of the Speaker of the House, and that's a powerful thing.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

    Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

    European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

    For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.
    Why should the Democrats help the Republicans when they have done nothing but sting us halfway across the river. Every time. For 50 years.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Originally posted by aparch View Post

    No. Six Republicans can cross over and end this.

    Almost thirty Democrats aren't going to vote for Qevin just to get stabbed in the back by him next week.
    Yeah it’s telling when people say crap like this. Bet they wouldn’t say it if the parties were reversed

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.
    You're being too pedantic.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    I don't know, but I'd recommend the Republicans figure their **** out before then.
    Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

    Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

    European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

    For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.

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  • mookie1995
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post

    So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
    when the irs claims they can't check refund checks :-O

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  • FadeToBlack&Gold
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Senator Stabenow announced she won't run for re-election next year.
    Thank fooking Christ.

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  • Kepler
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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post

    So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
    I don't know, but I'd recommend the Republicans figure their **** out before then.

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  • bronconick
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post

    So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
    Somewhere between March and August

    US could see a fight over debt ceiling that rocks markets, Goldman Sachs warns | CNN Business

    Even though federal debt is likely to reach the statutory limit in the next few weeks, Goldman Sachs said the Treasury Department should be able to borrow as usual until late February or early March. At that point, the government could tap a stockpile of $500 billion in cash to finance the deficit until August.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
    Bloomberg says September but I've seen an estimate as early as Q1. Nobody knows.

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    I'd rather they vote for speaker for two years than form committees and select committees, deceive the public, and waste my money.
    So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?

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