117th Congress: DEMS IN DISARRAY!!!111!!

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Walk into oncoming traffic, Ron. You absolute disgusting piece of ****

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...66139684245507

[SJHovey]

I honestly don't recall a single post of outrage over what the previous president did, so you can step down from your pretend high moral position. It's fake. We all know it.

If you go back and look at the immigration thread, first I think you'll see my stated position on immigration. Second, I think you'll see I blamed you for what Trump did. Still do. I blame you, and others like you, because you insist that some sort of discrimination at the border is acceptable. You, and others on this board, think that it's fine that Trump or Obama or the government in general should have the right to pick and choose who gets in, but then you have the temerity to come and whine to me when they pick and choose in a way that you don't like.

So again, this one's on you. Open the borders and problem solved.

[Kepler]

Walk into oncoming traffic, Ron. You absolute disgusting piece of ****

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...66139684245507

Do not quote them. Disappear them.

They are out of power. Their words carry literally zero weight. We know what they are. It only gives them oxygen to repeat their garbage.

End the Right. Deny them the platform. We have work to do and nothing they say or do matters.

[Kepler]

Now there’s talk of the Dems lowering the stimulus threshold. They’re really going to manage to screw up the easiest policial maneuver they’ve had since... I don’t even know when.

Attacking the good guys only helps the bad guys. Obviously they are doing what they can. They will need to negotiate within caucus to get things done. Screeching about it is just being clueless about the process.

If it bugs you read more about it and find out where the obstacles are. Don't fall for the DEMS IN DISARRAY!!!111 narrative. It's planted by the country's enemies, starting with the GOP and their fluffers.

The only point of stories like this is to erode trust and faith in our side so the other one can return. Don't feed that sh-t. If you're not happy then get involved yourself.

[SJHovey]

You can repeat a National Review Online talking point as many times as you want. It doesn't make it carry any more meaning than the first time you tried it.

Your games are puerile.

I'm not quoting National Review. I'm quoting Kepler.

You've probably posted 75 times since January 20 about how you guys have the control and it doesn't matter what the right says or thinks. In fact, I think you posted it again after insulting me about teasing you about it.

May I suggest that you stop bragging about the power on social media message boards and instead go ahead and use it?

[Kepler]

I'm not quoting National Review. I'm quoting Kepler.

You've probably posted 75 times since January 20 about how you guys have the control and it doesn't matter what the right says or thinks. In fact, I think you posted it again after insulting me about teasing you about it.

May I suggest that you stop bragging about the power on social media message boards and instead go ahead and use it?

You can try to quote what you do not understand, but that's not a useful exercise, and the moment you try to extrapolate you expose yourself.

This really isn't getting us anywhere. I could use a break.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Nancy nails it

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNBCNe...65678696636417

[ScoobyDoo]

Walk into oncoming traffic, Ron. You absolute disgusting piece of ****

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...66139684245507

omfg

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

I guess I don't know your background or what you do, or whether you have ever employed anyone, or for that matter, whether you've even said so on this board. However, I employ people, and have for more than 30 years. I can tell you that the "bulk" of my costs relating to employees is their wages or salaries. That's not to say that other things, like insurance, taxes, retirement contributions, workers comp, unemployment, etc..., are insignificant, because they certainly aren't.

For us, it normally runs about two thirds / one third. Two thirds of the cost is wages and salaries, one third is all the other stuff.

But that raises an important point.

Let's say I am paying a full time employee $13/hr. Their annual pay would be $27,040, but their expense to me (using the two thirds / one third breakdown) would be $40,560.

But now I raise their pay to $15/hr. Their annual pay would go to $31,200, but the other stuff is going up too, because pretty much all of that is hinged to wages. Their retirement contributions, work comp, unemployment, bonuses, etc... When that happens the cost to me maybe goes to $46,800 (on the two thirds / one third basis), which ends up increasing my costs for that one employee by 15.4%. That's not insignificant.

Now, none of my employees earn less than $15/hr., so whether they change it or not doesn't affect my business at all. But to just say, "it's a buck an hour" sort of misses the point of the actual costs involved.

Anybody have numbers on how many employers with minimum wage employees take advantage of business-friendly labor laws to avoid having to pay for things like insurance, retirement, bonuses, etc.? At this end of the pay scale does "it's a buck an hour" more accurately describe the majority of the cost?

[Swansong]

Nancy nails it

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNBCNe...65678696636417

I am no fan of Nancy Pelosi but that's... some straight up murder right there. That's great.

[Swansong]

One warning I have to Democrats - don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I'm not sure if this is the most appropriate time to double the national minimum wage, but if you can get almost all the other things and raise the minimum wage even a little, take your victory and work on the rest later.

[MichVandal]

So in order to try and deflect from MTG...the House GOP now wants Omar removed from her committees. As a Jew I find their disingenuous BS proof they don't have the stones to govern or do the right thing even when it is obvious. (yes I already knew that) They are scum...all of them. And as someone who votes for her (and criticizes her stances on things sometimes) they are only guaranteeing I will continue to vote for her over whatever Nazi they put forth. That goes double for when they race bait by supporting a Black Man. We don't need Tim Scott like frauds in this district.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1357055770840469506

The real false equivalency is that Democrats came out in droves to condemn what Rep Omar said, passed a resolution to condemn that kind of attitude in the House, and in general pointed out that her words and behavior were unacceptable.

The racists have have done none of that. Had they done that, the odds of the anti-sematic words taking her off the committees would be better for the racists.

But then there's the issue of MTG's death threats- targeting Democrats, her support for the violent takeover of the Capitol, the constant conspiracy theories that have no factual reality in them, etc- that makes it a whole lot harder to compare to Rep Omar.

Then again, we all know, the Racist party has no bounds on their hypocrisy.

Edit- to focus the Racist hypocrisy- they are attacking Liz Chaney for voting her conscience. Yea. Vote against dumpy, you are out, say horrific racist things, attack people who were murdered, and make up insane conspiracies- totally fine.

[rufus]

I guess I don't know your background or what you do, or whether you have ever employed anyone, or for that matter, whether you've even said so on this board. However, I employ people, and have for more than 30 years. I can tell you that the "bulk" of my costs relating to employees is their wages or salaries. That's not to say that other things, like insurance, taxes, retirement contributions, workers comp, unemployment, etc..., are insignificant, because they certainly aren't.

For us, it normally runs about two thirds / one third. Two thirds of the cost is wages and salaries, one third is all the other stuff.

But that raises an important point.

Let's say I am paying a full time employee $13/hr. Their annual pay would be $27,040, but their expense to me (using the two thirds / one third breakdown) would be $40,560.

But now I raise their pay to $15/hr. Their annual pay would go to $31,200, but the other stuff is going up too, because pretty much all of that is hinged to wages. Their retirement contributions, work comp, unemployment, bonuses, etc... When that happens the cost to me maybe goes to $46,800 (on the two thirds / one third basis), which ends up increasing my costs for that one employee by 15.4%. That's not insignificant.

Now, none of my employees earn less than $15/hr., so whether they change it or not doesn't affect my business at all. But to just say, "it's a buck an hour" sort of misses the point of the actual costs involved.

Guess you'll just have to tighten the old belt. Not eat out so much. Do you really need that TV and phone? Those weekend getaways and vacations? Maybe if you still can't get by, get a second job.

[MichVandal]

If you go back and look at the immigration thread, first I think you'll see my stated position on immigration. Second, I think you'll see I blamed you for what Trump did. Still do. I blame you, and others like you, because you insist that some sort of discrimination at the border is acceptable. You, and others on this board, think that it's fine that Trump or Obama or the government in general should have the right to pick and choose who gets in, but then you have the temerity to come and whine to me when they pick and choose in a way that you don't like.

So again, this one's on you. Open the borders and problem solved.

LOL, did I? I seem to recall saying that what was going on at the borders was pretty horrific. I never defended what Obama did at the borders, and vigorously condemned the inhuman treatment that dumpy did.

As a matter of fact, I did post that what was going really just massively lowered the value of the humans, as they are being labeled as so much so worse- which means that losers like dumpy can pay them even less money than they deserve to work. The REAL problem is that companies don't want to pay fair wage for the work, so they hire a bunch of illegal immigrants to almost no paying work.

So you can just go and sleep it off.

Everyone knows what you are all about, so attacking me doesn't change that.

[MichVandal]

One warning I have to Democrats - don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I'm not sure if this is the most appropriate time to double the national minimum wage, but if you can get almost all the other things and raise the minimum wage even a little, take your victory and work on the rest later.

It would be interesting to see how many of those low wage people work for massive companies- like McD, or BK, or Starbucks, or any other massive corporation. The large corporations can easily lower the amount of money they leech from the people who actually work to make them money.