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  • psych
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    The more I think about this, the more I think we actually came out ahead. 1% on all buybacks has to be more than what fund managers make on going from 15% to 37%, right?
    Raises $73 billion vs $14 billion. We came out way ahead. Sinema was an easy get here. Way easier than Manchin. Have to give her credit for that.

    Edit: Now, it all comes down to the Senate Parliamentarian.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    Yep. But she has to know she's done after her single term.
    That's what this was, her bribe from the financial industry that sets her up for life. Who knows how much she received? It would have been worth billions to them to pay her off.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Sounds like we lost the carried interest but added a 1% excise on stock buybacks.
    The more I think about this, the more I think we actually came out ahead. 1% on all buybacks has to be more than what fund managers make on going from 15% to 37%, right?

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post

    Yep. But she has to know she's done after her single term.

    It's too bad she and Kelly couldn't trade terms, because if she was up this year there would be way more pressure on her.
    Yeah I have said that a lot recently. If she was up in November she doesn't pull half the crap she pulls now. As it is she has a couple years to play out the string. Problem is she has burned so many bridges I am not sure what she will do next.

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    I know that sucks but we needed her yes. If we want any shot in the midterms we need the Reconciliation Bill.
    Yep. But she has to know she's done after her single term.

    It's too bad she and Kelly couldn't trade terms, because if she was up this year there would be way more pressure on her.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Sounds like we lost the carried interest but added a 1% excise on stock buybacks.
    I know that sucks but we needed her yes. If we want any shot in the midterms we need the Reconciliation Bill.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Sounds like we lost the carried interest but added a 1% excise on stock buybacks.

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  • Deutsche Gopher Fan
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    Sinema is now a yes

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  • burd
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    When (if) histories of this period are written in fifty years, Dump will be the watershed where racists and misogynists stopped pretending in public and showed themselves as they really are.
    I think so, and it is a frightening indictment of a large number of those around us. Of "us." Though not surprising.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    She's a sweetheart.

    How do the rich keep evading taxes?

    Bribery.
    Tell her it's the drought protection or her state. Air the ads in Arizona.

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  • Kepler
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    She's a sweetheart.

    How do the rich keep evading taxes?

    Bribery.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by burd View Post

    He appealed to bigotry, something many people support only in the dark and will often refuse to admit its appeal even to themselves.
    When (if) histories of this period are written in fifty years, Dump will be the watershed where racists and misogynists stopped pretending in public and showed themselves as they really are.

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  • burd
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    Originally posted by Swansong View Post
    I don't have any strong feelings on Silver or polling or his methodology, but I remember back in 2016 listening to an NPR story on polling. One of the pollsters identified that he thought that many respondents were lying to him, and likely to other pollsters. He had no way of quantifying or even proving that and acknowledged that, and in fact basically left it as "well, we can only go by what people explicitly say, so these are our numbers".

    But that resonated with me. I know, personally, a bunch of people who either said they were voting for Clinton or never said anything, who then voted for Trump. Their reasons likely vary, but I feel like it was a sizeable number. You have an entire segment of people who absolutely won't respond to polls because something something fake news something liberal bias something something.
    He appealed to bigotry, something many people support only in the dark and will often refuse to admit its appeal even to themselves.

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  • Swansong
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    I don't have any strong feelings on Silver or polling or his methodology, but I remember back in 2016 listening to an NPR story on polling. One of the pollsters identified that he thought that many respondents were lying to him, and likely to other pollsters. He had no way of quantifying or even proving that and acknowledged that, and in fact basically left it as "well, we can only go by what people explicitly say, so these are our numbers".

    But that resonated with me. I know, personally, a bunch of people who either said they were voting for Clinton or never said anything, who then voted for Trump. Their reasons likely vary, but I feel like it was a sizeable number. You have an entire segment of people who absolutely won't respond to polls because something something fake news something liberal bias something something.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post

    Yeah, he only left the Daily Show in 2015. Say a kid watched it for all of high school and Stewart left when they graduated, they’re only 25ish now.
    And he started on TDS the year I graduated HS when Kilborn left.

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