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  • Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    They literally aren't gonna budge...

    Beau had a really video today talking about how Dems could use this opportunity to leverage Quevin and I think it would be the time to do so. Basically use him to put pressure on the Sedition Caucus.
    No. Six Republicans can cross over and end this.

    Almost thirty Democrats aren't going to vote for Qevin just to get stabbed in the back by him next week.
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    • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

      I'd rather they vote for speaker for two years than form committees and select committees, deceive the public, and waste my money.
      So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?

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      • Originally posted by unofan View Post
        When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
        Bloomberg says September but I've seen an estimate as early as Q1. Nobody knows.
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        • Originally posted by unofan View Post

          So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
          Somewhere between March and August

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          Even though federal debt is likely to reach the statutory limit in the next few weeks, Goldman Sachs said the Treasury Department should be able to borrow as usual until late February or early March. At that point, the government could tap a stockpile of $500 billion in cash to finance the deficit until August.
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          • Originally posted by unofan View Post

            So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
            I don't know, but I'd recommend the Republicans figure their **** out before then.
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              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Senator Stabenow announced she won't run for re-election next year.
                Thank fooking Christ.

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                • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                  So when is the first mandatory vote due to take place? The omnibus bill funded the federal government for the fiscal year, so that won't be an issue until September 30. When's the debt ceiling due to reach its limit?
                  when the irs claims they can't check refund checks :-O
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                  • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                    I don't know, but I'd recommend the Republicans figure their **** out before then.
                    Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

                    Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

                    European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

                    For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.
                    That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                    • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                      Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.
                      You're being too pedantic.

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                      • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                        No. Six Republicans can cross over and end this.

                        Almost thirty Democrats aren't going to vote for Qevin just to get stabbed in the back by him next week.
                        Yeah it’s telling when people say crap like this. Bet they wouldn’t say it if the parties were reversed

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                        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                          Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

                          Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

                          European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

                          For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.
                          Why should the Democrats help the Republicans when they have done nothing but sting us halfway across the river. Every time. For 50 years.
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                          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                            Why should the Democrats help the Republicans when they have done nothing but sting us halfway across the river. Every time. For 50 years.
                            It has nothing to do with "helping." If you can find 218 votes, you can control the chair of the Speaker of the House, and that's a powerful thing.
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                            • American politicians are great at coalition building. This issue here is Republicans are not politicians, and the GOP is not a political party. It is a terrorist organization bound to a cult.

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                              • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                                Not to be too pedantic, but technically it’s up to the US House of Representatives to elect a speaker, not some subset of that group.

                                Right now, 212 are behind Jeffries, 200 or so behind McCarthy, and 20 or so who haven’t figured out who they are behind.

                                European politicians, used to multi-party politics, are used to building governing coalitions. US politicians lack that skill because we’ve been locked in a two party system for more than a century. They’ll have to figure it out.

                                For those of you hoping for the rise of a legitimate third party, or gleefully hoping either the Democratic or Republican Party fracture into multiple parties, this is what that looks like.
                                So tell six of your "moderate" Republicans to vote for Jeffries. He's consistently gotten more votes than anyone else.

                                Or.....shut the eff up.
                                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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