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  • I swear dowd is trying to fill the stable Peggy noonan is going to eventually vacate.
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    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
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    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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    • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
      House passes the big bill. Biden calls out how hard VP worked to get this done. I’m sure our resident misogynist will be along to tell us differently

      Maureen dowd continues to have the worst takes and should be sent to the glue factory
      I have an uneasy feeling...

      edit: my unease is about what comes after Biden signs this. I have a feeling time will run out on the rest.
      Last edited by Handyman; 11-07-2021, 02:24 PM.
      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
      -aparch

      "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
      -INCH

      Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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      • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

        No, it won't help the vast vast majority. But it will help in the suburbs which are currently the front lines.
        I don’t think it’ll be nearly enough, so we’ll agree to disagree, but we’ve beat this horse to death.

        RCP’s polling now shows Republicans ahead of Democrats on the generic congressional ballot, mirroring the RNC’s internal polling from a week ago or so.

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        • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

          I have an uneasy feeling...

          edit: my unease is about what comes after Biden signs this. I have a feeling time will run out on the rest.
          I would think that if the BBB fails, it’s all on the centrists. Progressives took a leap of faith by giving up their leverage and advancing BIF.

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          • Originally posted by psych View Post

            You know Iowa better than me, so I’ll bow to your knowledge on that. That said, I think the vast majority of Americans don’t know how effective their lawmakers actually are in providing constituent services, and therefore, don’t vote based on that. The vast, vast majority of voters aren’t even affected by the SALT repeal/reform, so, I’m not sure of the effectiveness of such a message. I think Republicans’ message of “Tax breaks for billionaires, not for you” will resonate more with middle-class voters than “We’re getting Trump back for you”, considering tying Trump to Youngkin, Ciattarelli, etc., just proved to be a big loser a few days ago. You’re right that Republicans don’t give a fuck about being right, and they understand politics, so the hypocrisy of “Tax breaks for billionaires, not for you” will roll off their backs like their entire platform never happened. And, as a handful of nights ago showed, people aren’t voting with Trump and his policies at the top of their minds.
            The Democrats had two options - reinstate the SALT deductions entirely, or find a tax to apply to the rich people in Red states because the whole point of removing the SALT deductions was to drive wealthy people out of Blue states. The whole point of the SALT changes under Trump was to make life harder for Blue state voters. The GQP didn’t care about budget balancing, or making their rich grift a revenue neutral event. They wanted to punish those states whose population would rather advance the country as a whole than promote Orange Fascism.
            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

            "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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            • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

              The Democrats had two options - reinstate the SALT deductions entirely, or find a tax to apply to the rich people in Red states because the whole point of removing the SALT deductions was to drive wealthy people out of Blue states. The whole point of the SALT changes under Trump was to make life harder for Blue state voters. The GQP didn’t care about budget balancing, or making their rich grift a revenue neutral event. They wanted to punish those states whose population would rather advance the country as a whole than promote Orange Fascism.
              I live in a blue, very high tax state and there has never been more demand to live here. Housing prices have gone through the roof in the last couple of years. I think it’s silly to give away this revenue and it only benefits wealthy folks.
              Originally posted by BobbyBrady
              Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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              • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

                The Democrats had two options - reinstate the SALT deductions entirely, or find a tax to apply to the rich people in Red states because the whole point of removing the SALT deductions was to drive wealthy people out of Blue states. The whole point of the SALT changes under Trump was to make life harder for Blue state voters. The GQP didn’t care about budget balancing, or making their rich grift a revenue neutral event. They wanted to punish those states whose population would rather advance the country as a whole than promote Orange Fascism.
                Yeah, I was never arguing about the intentions behind the SALT cap put in place by Trump and Congress. Clearly the GOP doesn’t care about the budget. Not arguing that either. If their actual intention was to drive people out of blue states because of high taxes, they’re morons, because no one actually moves/moved based on that.
                All I’m saying is Democrats in general don’t support tax giveaways to the rich, while repealing or reforming the SALT cap helped a minuscule amount of middle-class families, including in places like New Jersey. But, in order to pass their infrastructure/social infrastructure bills, they needed to include it to get Gottheimer, Suozzi, Sherrill, etc., on board. I understand that, and I support the inclusion of it for that reason alone. I disagree with the rest of the reasons provided here. I don’t think it’s a win for the party, partly because I think Republicans, if they have to message on it at all, will outsmart Democrats on it. If white suburban women really think Youngkin is better for education, or Ciattarelli, or ANY Republican for that matter, despite the clearly fucking pathetic excuses of policies, or lack thereof, by Republican candidates/politicians on the issue, they’ll be prone to fall for messaging by Republicans on SALT repeal as well. Time will tell.

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                • Cruelty was the reason for it, which is Trump's reason for anything. He didn't care if people moved or not and no one else behind it did either. It was pure punishment.
                  I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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                  • Originally posted by psych View Post

                    I would think that if the BBB fails, it’s all on the centrists. Progressives took a leap of faith by giving up their leverage and advancing BIF.
                    That is why I feel uneasy. Look who we are putting our faith in...
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                    -aparch

                    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                    -INCH

                    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                    • BBB will pass either stripped to the bone by Manchin or it will die. 50/50 right now.
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                      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                      • Senator Josh Hawley continues to alienate his supporters: "Stop watching porn and playing video games, get outside and be a real man!"

                        “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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                        • Something tells me Josh just told us how he spends his free time.

                          And if anyone knows what being a real manly man is like, its Josh Hawley
                          Last edited by rufus; 11-08-2021, 01:21 PM.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                            Senator Josh Hawley continues to alienate his supporters: "Stop watching porn and playing video games, get outside and be a real man!"

                            That won't alienate his base - the GQP has more closeted/hypocritical voters of various persuasions than the Dems by a long shot.

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                            • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                              Senator Josh Hawley continues to alienate his supporters: "Stop watching porn and playing video games, get outside and be a real man!"
                              It's absolutely none of Josh Hawley's goddamn business what the average Michigan Tech student chooses to do with their spare time. ;-)

                              Also, he has the second most punchable face in America, right after Ted Cruz.

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                              • Originally posted by rufus View Post
                                Something tells me Josh just told us how he spends his free time.

                                And if anyone knows what being a real manly man is like, its Josh Hawley
                                I mean the man cried cause 7 hipsters held a candlelight vigil outside his house!! ALPHA!!!
                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                                -INCH

                                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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