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  • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Handy, I know it's easy to toss out the race card, but the D is presently dominated by NY and CA folks (see: AOC, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Swalwell, et al). And those folks are far more liberal than Dixie-crats. Liberalization of the D is a real factor. But I'll give you credit by saying not the only factor.

    In the end however, folks vote wallet even over (their most despicable) biases.

    Don't believe me? Previously lily-white Kentucky basketball went integrated when they realized they could reach more fans (aka money).

    Dixie-crats are fiscal pragmatists and don't see NY/CA liberalism in their fiscal favor.
    I’m sure you’re also aware, and willing to acknowledge, that while the Democratic Party has moved left in the last decade or two, it’s still considered a mainstream left-of-center party when compared to other countries’ parties. The GOP, on the other hand, has moved so far right that it’s basically off the charts. I think only one or two European parties are further right. I think someone posted a graph of this movement on here not too long ago. Dixiecrats, who haven’t existed in any real numbers since maybe the 1970s, didn’t give two fucks whether their colleagues fighting for civil rights were from California, New York, Minnesota, or Mars. Their utter raison d’etre was continued subjugation of minorities- specifically black people- which puts them squarely in a party like AfD, or the modern day GOP.
    Last edited by psych; 07-29-2021, 10:35 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

      I never could figure LBJ out. By all rights the dude should have been another Strom Thurmond or at best a Robert Byrd. But he was, apparently, the real deal. Actually committed to something like racial justice, or as close as you were gonna get in 1964 anyway. How did that happen? Was he just 6 sigma off the mean?
      LBJ wanted one thing, and one thing only: to become President. He was willing to do anything to get there, including saddling up next to the leader of the Dixiecrats: Richard Russell. When that got him where he wanted (Senate Leader), he had to appeal to the “coastal elites” that Sic spoke of, which included Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Paul Douglass of Illinois, those beautiful coastal states, so as to build their support for a future run for President. Nixon as VP under Eisenhower was very civil rights-minded, so it kind of started there, or at least snowballed, and Kennedy- politically convenient or not- continued the snowball after Eisenhower. LBJ basically finished the job. It helped he knew the inner workings of the Senate- kind of like Biden does now. Let’s hope that’s a positive sign for us Democrats now.
      If it wasn’t for Vietnam (a huge if), LBJ would be a top 5 President, at least in my opinion.

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      • Originally posted by psych View Post

        LBJ wanted one thing, and one thing only: to become President. He was willing to do anything to get there, including saddling up next to the leader of the Dixiecrats: Richard Russell. When that got him where he wanted (Senate Leader), he had to appeal to the “coastal elites” that Sic spoke of, which included Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Paul Douglass of Illinois, those beautiful coastal states…
        How are MN and IL NOT coastal states? They have direct, winding lines to the Atlantic.

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        • Originally posted by psych View Post

          Sinema is on board with advancing the reconciliation bill. She’s just not on board with the price tag. I was mad at her last night. I’m not as mad today. I still think she sucks, but if the bipartisan bill, along with the reconciliation bill a price tag of, say, even $2.5 to $3 trillion, are signed into law, it’ll still be the most significant investment in physical and human infrastructure since LBJ’s administration.
          Im still mad at her...going public with that was her playing chicken with the House Dems and gave the opposition more leverage. I guarantee she sucks at poker and chess...
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          • Happy American Socialism Day! Well, maybe it’s not that, but 66 years ago today, LBJ did sign into law the creation of Medicare. Old people around the country both booed and cheered, then visited their doctors as they felt a pain in their ribs after cheering.
            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

            "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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            • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              How are MN and IL NOT coastal states? They have direct, winding lines to the Atlantic.
              Iowa is coastal because of railroads.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                Iowa is coastal because of railroads.
                Well, I was thinking more about the Great Lakes and the access it gives to the states (and don’t require use of glorified skiffs).
                "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  How are MN and IL NOT coastal states? They have direct, winding lines to the Atlantic.
                  Yeah, Kep, how are New York and New Jersey not prairie states?

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                  • Originally posted by burd View Post

                    Yeah, Kep, how are New York and New Jersey not prairie states?
                    There are other flyovers besides the Prairie; not everything's about you.

                    Western NY is Rust Belt.

                    Northern NY is Canada.

                    Northern NJ is Staten Island.

                    Southern NJ is Philadelphia.
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                    • Vacation plans! Her constituents will understand

                      my god she may be a bigger c u next tuesday than Susan

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                      • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

                        Well, I was thinking more about the Great Lakes and the access it gives to the states (and don’t require use of glorified skiffs).
                        Never mind The River.

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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                          There are other flyovers besides the Prairie; not everything's about you.

                          Western NY is Rust Belt.

                          Northern NY is Canada.

                          Northern NJ is Staten Island.

                          Southern NJ is Philadelphia.
                          West Egg is Houston?

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                          • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            Vacation plans! Her constituents will understand

                            my god she may be a bigger c u next tuesday than Susan

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                            • I know alcoholics who don't tank their career this badly...
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                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

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                              • Originally posted by burd View Post

                                West Egg is Houston?
                                West Egg is Great Neck. Jews and college professors.
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