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  • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

    So ... party gamesmanship. (What are Manchin and Sinema* getting I wonder?)



    *Was really hard not to type Munchkin and Sinestro there.
    They arent getting anything except they got the negotiation they wanted. As Scooby said they can now tout their "bipartisan" bs.

    As for linking the bills, they did it because the Bernie Faction is probably waffling. This deal doesn't deal with any of the stuff they pleaded for and Biden can't risk the Dems being the reason the bill doesn't pass...it destroys the narrative.

    Plus everyone knew the GQP would find any excuse to quit on it anyways. The GQP negotiates in bad faith. Even when the Dems give them everything they still say no. (1/6 Commission anyone) All of this was a dog and pony show for both sides.
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
    -aparch

    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
    -INCH

    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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    • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
      I’m not sure the far left people threatening to vote against the bill are helping their cause. The Dems need to do everything they can to get this passed and then see how far Sinema and Manchin will go on reconciliation. There really isn’t another play here.
      You mean the solution that Suzie worked tirelessly to bring to fruition might not even pass?

      Oh, do tell.
      What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Also, please don't say "the far left" when referring to any Member. There is nobody in Congress who exceeds even the mild Left (Bernie, AOC). The Overton Window of our political representation is centered on the Right. The leftmost 1st decile (Harris, Gilibrand) would be center-right in most advanced democracies.
        Take Germany:
        • Republicans are a blend of AfD neo-fascist social policies and Chicago School "fck the poor" economics
        • Most Democrats would slot into varying factions of the CDU/CSU - free market economics w/ some regs and safety nets, pro-some sort of socialized healthcare, moderate-to-liberal social policies
        • A few of the furthest left Democrats might barely be SPD - further define and curtail states' rights, more economic regs and socialized services, very liberal social policies
        • Our Green Party is kinda sorta their Die Gruenen - staunchly anti-nuclear/anti-polluter, pro-green energy & sustainable development, very liberal social policies - except that Greenies actually enjoy electoral success in Germany
        • I can't think of a single American elected official or notable political party today who would fit Die Linke, whose factions run between Nordic-level democratic socialism and "Make East Germany Exist Again"

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        • Originally posted by Handyman View Post

          All of this was a dog and pony show for both sides.
          This describes US politics for the past (Insert number of your choice between 1 - 244) years.
          "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."
          Groucho Marx
          "You can't fix stupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. Stupid is forever. "
          Ron White
          "If we stop being offensive, the Terrorists win."
          Milo Bloom

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          • I missed this one from a couple weeks back: The esteemed US representative of Texas' 1st congressional district Louie Gohmert asked a very important question of the US Forestry Department during a meeting of the House natural resources committee...

            Could the Forest Service and/or the Bureau of Land Management lead the way in adjusting the orbit of the Moon or Earth to help combat global warming?

            “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

            Live Radio from 100.3

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            • This is right on the money: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/o...6-america.html
              Originally posted by BobbyBrady
              Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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              • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                I missed this one from a couple weeks back: The esteemed US representative of Texas' 1st congressional district Louie Gohmert asked a very important question of the US Forestry Department during a meeting of the House natural resources committee...

                Could the Forest Service and/or the Bureau of Land Management lead the way in adjusting the orbit of the Moon or Earth to help combat global warming?

                It was posted here at the time...sounds even dumber now than it did then. This guy gets excited and shocked when you pull a quarter out of his ear...
                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                -aparch

                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                -INCH

                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                  The worst part of the past 5 years or so has been coming to the realization that half the country are selfish a55holes. It was always there, but Dump emboldened them and there is no going back now.

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                  • https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/sta...169937920?s=19

                    According to a study by the London School of Economics, 50 years worth of tax cuts contributed absolutely nothing to GDP growth and employment rates across 18 nations that tried 'trickle down economics', since the wealthiest hoard far more than they spend.
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                    -aparch

                    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                    -INCH

                    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                    • So let's just keep trying it, eh? It's bound to work one of these decades...
                      “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

                      Live Radio from 100.3

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                      • Wait, you’re going to try and pass more legislation later? Only republicans can do that!

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/ndrew_law...67844298866694

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                        • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                          Wait, you’re going to try and pass more legislation later? Only republicans can do that!

                          https://mobile.twitter.com/ndrew_law...67844298866694
                          If Sinema and Manchin let us, bulldoze over them. Fuck them. We know they don’t actually care about infrastructure. We know they know that we know they don’t care. Give Sinema another “fuck you” ring to wear, give West Virginia $1 trillion of the $6 trillion Bernie’s proposing, and march onward and upward.

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                          • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            Wait, you’re going to try and pass more legislation later? Only republicans can do that!

                            https://mobile.twitter.com/ndrew_law...67844298866694
                            Drew will be along to tell you why this is a good thing once he finishes removing Susan's muff hair from between his teeth.

                            Cornell '04, Stanford '06


                            KDR

                            Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                            iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                            gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                            Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                            Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                            TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                            DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                            Test to see if I can add this.

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                            • Originally posted by French Rage View Post

                              Drew will be along to tell you why this is a good thing once he finishes removing Susan's muff hair from between his teeth.
                              Please. Drew will blame Democrats that the bill wasn’t $3 trillion and call it a “midterm disaster” for the blue team.

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                              • Originally posted by psych View Post

                                If Sinema and Manchin let us, bulldoze over them. Fuck them. We know they don’t actually care about infrastructure. We know they know that we know they don’t care. Give Sinema another “fuck you” ring to wear, give West Virginia $1 trillion of the $6 trillion Bernie’s proposing, and march onward and upward.
                                Collins or Murkowski’s votes could be for sale as well. Honestly I think the Dems would be better off just passing one bill with reconciliation but doesn’t look like Sinema or Manchin are on board with that.

                                I’m not sure how easy it is to work with with a party who just tried(and to some degree are still trying) to overturn the presidential election but I could be wrong.
                                Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                                Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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