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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    That is true but McCarthy needs even more than that...

    A McCarthy voter switching to present is...ummm...interesting. It obviously doesn't help him but still screws over Donalds. McCarthy only has 201 votes he can't win with people voting present unless they are Dems or (now) Donalds 20. Jeffries has the "lead" the more that drop out that aren't Dems the closer he is to victory. If McCarthy doesn't start flipping the Anti McCarthy crowd he can't win the numbers are against him.

    I am not sure why she voted present. It doesnt help Qevin and it doesn't help the GOP.
    It's not for Kevin, it's for the Rep. Voting Present tells Mccarthy they won't back him and tells the opposition Jordan is unacceptable so put up somebody else and she may vote for them.

    The options are: ride or die Qevin, but it looks like the Taliban Twenty are serious; Gym which is ridiculous and disgusting; Present; vote for yourself a la Donalds; vote for some other Rep to try to coax them to declare. Or I guess vote for Jeffries to grab headlines but probably destroy your career.

    There is another option, though, and that is to nominate Dump. I am surprised nobody has done that yet.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Which makes no sense...there is no one to make that decision since there is no House of Representatives sworn in yet.

    BTW someone on Twitter brought up an reason for the "present" vote which makes sense. The more people who vote present the closer Jeffries is to being Speaker. If it gets to the point that it it is waaaaaaay to close Qevin will be under enormous pressure from the Caucus to drop out. It will be a game of chicken to get him to end his bid so they can vote for someone they actually like.

    If we see a couple more "present" votes in the next couple rounds I think that is the plausible play.
    But that's just it - who do they actually like that could get 218? Even if McCarthy "announces" that he's dropping out (he can't stop people from nominating him - c.f. Gym Jordan), who else gets 218? Who can bridge the seemingly tremendous gap between the 200 and the 20?

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  • Handyman
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    Which makes no sense...there is no one to make that decision since there is no House of Representatives sworn in yet.

    BTW someone on Twitter brought up an reason for the "present" vote which makes sense. The more people who vote present the closer Jeffries is to being Speaker. If it gets to the point that it it is waaaaaaay to close Qevin will be under enormous pressure from the Caucus to drop out. It will be a game of chicken to get him to end his bid so they can vote for someone they actually like.

    If we see a couple more "present" votes in the next couple rounds I think that is the plausible play.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    I find the distribution of the names interesting. The last 11 of 12 or so are all Republicans, and the Dems have a stretch in the Os and Ps that seems like 17 of 20.
    I noticed this too. Maybe it's ethnicity.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    Gaetz is actually upset Trump supports Qevin...called it "sad". He is also not pleased with MTG.

    Qolorado Qucumber is too stupid to understand what is happening. Probably in the back watching her husband flash his small ***** at underage girls.
    She also made a video where she was gushing as the metal detectors in the Capitol were being removed.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I thought Boebert and Gaetz were Trump bobos? What the hell is going on around here?
    Gaetz is actually upset Trump supports Qevin...called it "sad". He is also not pleased with MTG.

    Qolorado Qucumber is too stupid to understand what is happening. Probably in the back watching her husband flash his small ***** at underage girls.

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  • Slap Shot
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    I thought Boebert and Gaetz were Trump bobos? What the hell is going on around here?

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    One GOP just voted present, which brought down the total of votes to 433, which would make 217 the new number. She had been voting McCarthy so he went down by 1 compared to yesterday.

    Unfortunately Jeffries needs the total to get to 423 if no GOP are going to cross.
    That is true but McCarthy needs even more than that...

    A McCarthy voter switching to present is...ummm...interesting. It obviously doesn't help him but still screws over Donalds. McCarthy only has 201 votes he can't win with people voting present unless they are Dems or (now) Donalds 20. Jeffries has the "lead" the more that drop out that aren't Dems the closer he is to victory. If McCarthy doesn't start flipping the Anti McCarthy crowd he can't win the numbers are against him.

    I am not sure why she voted present. It doesnt help Qevin and it doesn't help the GOP. Unless she is negotiating with Dems there is no strategic value behind her move.

    edit: apparently she almost voted NO. It was mentioned on Twitter she is Ukrainian...
    Last edited by Handyman; 01-04-2023, 02:33 PM.

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    I find the distribution of the names interesting. The last 11 of 12 or so are all Republicans, and the Dems have a stretch in the Os and Ps that seems like 17 of 20.

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  • aparch
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    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    This clown who is now nominating Qevin again has just stated that Elon Musk has purchased a crime scene. Really? Did he get that information off of Hunter Biden's laptop?
    Has that guy never spent an hour on Twitter? Does he know how many people openly admit their crimes on Twitter?

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    This clown who is now nominating Qevin again has just stated that Elon Musk has purchased a crime scene. Really? Did he get that information off of Hunter Biden's laptop?

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  • cF[Authentic]
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    There's got to be at least 10 more Republicans who don't understand how it works and are stupid enough to vote present.

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  • Spartanforlife4
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    One GOP just voted present, which brought down the total of votes to 433, which would make 217 the new number. She had been voting McCarthy so he went down by 1 compared to yesterday.

    Unfortunately Jeffries needs the total to get to 423 if no GOP are going to cross.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    So are they just gonna continue this until the budget runs out and the government shuts down?
    That's exactly what they want.

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  • Jimjamesak
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    So are they just gonna continue this until the budget runs out and the government shuts down?

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