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  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    It’s too bad he’s going to lose the Senate race in Ohio by 7 points to JD Vance while his current seat flips red.

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    • Originally posted by psych View Post

      It’s too bad he’s going to lose the Senate race in Ohio by 7 points to JD Vance while his current seat flips red.
      Ohio is lost, we knew that already, but Ohio is also dying. If the trade for Ohio going red is Arizona going blue and only getting bluer as it grows and gains more EV and seats in Congress in the next 20-30 years, that's a trade even a braindead GM would make.

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      • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

        Ohio is lost, we knew that already, but Ohio is also dying. If the trade for Ohio going red is Arizona going blue and only getting bluer as it grows and gains more EV and seats in Congress in the next 20-30 years, that's a trade even a braindead GM would make.
        This writ large for the entire Midwest vs the Southwest.

        Lose IN (11), OH (17), MI (15), IA (6), WI (10) = 59; gain NM (5), NV (6), AZ (11), TX (40) = 62? Deal!
        Last edited by Kepler; 05-20-2021, 03:59 AM.
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        • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

          Ohio is lost, we knew that already, but Ohio is also dying. If the trade for Ohio going red is Arizona going blue and only getting bluer as it grows and gains more EV and seats in Congress in the next 20-30 years, that's a trade even a braindead GM would make.
          Ohio can dwindle to two people, and they’ll be the two Senators. When Sherrod retires, that’s a lost seat. When Manchin retires, that’s a lost seat. He may not even win re-election in 2024. Same for Tester. We are 50/50 in the Senate because of a miraculous set of circumstances, like someone my age and a black guy winning Senate seats in Georgia.
          Arizona gained 0 seats this past decade. As for Texas, when can we really count on it turning blue? 2032? 2036? I read some article on Crystal Ball the other day that came up with scenarios to abolish the 435 seats. With the GOP in the driver’s seat again for redistricting and likely winning a couple seats through reapportionment alone, Biden may have a friendly Senate come 2022, thanks to Tester/Manchin/Warnock holding off a Collins-type candidate, but I think the House is red next year, despite the internal fighting amongst the GOP. Unless they split into two parties, we all know the average GOP voter doesn’t give a fuck, or doesn’t even know, about the internal fighting right now.

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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

            This writ large for the entire Midwest vs the Southwest.

            Lose IN (11), OH (17), MI (15), IA (6), WI (10) = 59; gain NM (5), NV (6), AZ (11), TX (40) = 62? Deal!
            I don’t understand the numbers on the bottom part of your post. We already regularly win New Mexico and Nevada. Those aren’t new states in our column.

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            • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Honestly why are people surprised about this? Mitch has been trying to wash his hands of this since 1/7. He voted against Impeachment while also blaming the President for what happened because half his underlings will revolt if he speaks out of turn. He has no more control of his caucus than Qevin McQarthy does.
              Nobody is surprised- but it should constantly be pointed out the incredibly blatant hypocrisy comparing the hours and hours and hours of hearings over Benghazi and the fact they want to cover up almost the same assault on the US capitol building.

              Just need to repost that small point as many times as possible.

              The Racist party does nothing for policy or reason, they do everything for power. They are very evil to this country.

              Of course, this will not turn the people who follow them. But seeing the massive split in the R party- at least somebody is paying attention. None the less, the people who pretend to have some kind of objection to this should also be called out for causing this whole episode- like Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the POS's that ran that administration. Let alone the "tea party" bs that came along in 2010.

              As have been pointed out many times, the roots of this movement started with reagan. It's been fear and tax cuts since then.

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              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Yeah, but Tim, we don't have two political parties. We have one. And we better figure out how to do it that way for a while.
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                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

                  Yeah, but Tim, we don't have two political parties. We have one. And we better figure out how to do it that way for a while.
                  We have one political party with ideas and solutions (regardless of your feelings about said ideas and solutions). The other party has decided to fully embrace being a organized crime syndicate whose only goal is absolute control of government at all levels. If folks can't see that at this point, then they're permanently lost.

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                  • Perfect

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                    • Time to put chuck out to pasture.

                      also, fuck off grassley

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                      • Originally posted by deutsche gopher fan View Post
                        time to put chuck out to pasture.

                        Also, fuck off grassley

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/rickhasen...93361910009857
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                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • I wasn’t aware commissions required 60 votes. I just thought McConnell was grandstanding so it looked as partisan as possible for the final vote.

                          Burr came out against the 1/6 commission as well, with similar gaslighting as McConnell. Burr said we don’t need a “new” commission, McConnell said we don’t need “another” commission. What is the current “commission” they’re twisting into their own propaganda, the FBI investigations? Or is this just straight up fabrication?
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                          • ...who was in his Hotel room?

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                            • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Time to put chuck out to pasture.

                              also, fuck off grassley

                              https://mobile.twitter.com/rickhasen...93361910009857
                              Grassley is the current poster boy for Senate term limits and mandatory retirement from both houses of Congress at the end of a term during which you turned 80.

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                              • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                                I wasn’t aware commissions required 60 votes. I just thought McConnell was grandstanding so it looked as partisan as possible for the final vote.

                                Burr came out against the 1/6 commission as well, with similar gaslighting as McConnell. Burr said we don’t need a “new” commission, McConnell said we don’t need “another” commission. What is the current “commission” they’re twisting into their own propaganda, the FBI investigations? Or is this just straight up fabrication?
                                I don't see in the constitution where it says we need 60.

                                in other words, it's 50+1. Pass the rules change and get it done. Stop fucking around, Democrats
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