World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

[French Rage]

Sure Portugal didn't correct their behavior, but what did any teams made of decent human beings do?

[Jimjamesak]

Sure Portugal didn't correct their behavior, but what did any teams made of decent human beings do?

Neither did the Dutch, you know the team that had 8 yellows and a red in the 2010 Final.

Edit: 2006 (and 2010 to some extent) was kind of a perfect storm where referees were being instructed to have strict enforcement of the Laws while teams had moved to more aggressively defensive styles using defensive central mids to clear space for playmakers (think people like Gattuso for Pirlo, Makelele for Zidane, Costinha for Figo).

[Jimjamesak]

The SKC-Minnesota game got moved to Thursday night because, I’m not kidding, the Ravens-Steelers game got moved to Tuesday and Fox wanted something to fill the time slot.

So the winner of that game will now only get 3 days rest before the conference final.

[Slap Shot]

They didn't learn from it because everyone supporting them got ****y and complained and I guess acting like toddlers won out.

Enforce the rules and if they don't learn then eff them they can lie in the bed they made. I mean is the alternative garbage we're seeing otherwise really that much more palatable?

[Kepler]

You are wonderfully naive

I'm more of an opinionated, ignorant jerk, to be honest. I do appreciate receiving the benefit of the doubt, though.

[Kepler]

They didn't learn from it because everyone supporting them got ****y and complained and I guess acting like toddlers won out.

Enforce the rules and if they don't learn then eff them they can lie in the bed they made. I mean is the alternative garbage we're seeing otherwise really that much more palatable?

c.f. flopping / writhing

"Embellishment" penalties were made for soccer.

[Jimjamesak]

They didn't learn from it because everyone supporting them got ****y and complained and I guess acting like toddlers won out.

Enforce the rules and if they don't learn then eff them they can lie in the bed they made. I mean is the alternative garbage we're seeing otherwise really that much more palatable?

Well, obviously things are palatable enough for people to watch.

[Kepler]

Well, obviously things are palatable enough for people to watch.

Um...

[Jimjamesak]

Um...

I'm more thinking on the FIFA level, since, ya know, they're the ones who control stuff.

[Kepler]

I'm more thinking on the FIFA level, since, ya know, they're the ones who control stuff.

Can't argue with their ratings. :-)

I'm not sure how FIFA dictates officiating decisions to MLS, though.

[Slap Shot]

Well, obviously things are palatable enough for people to watch.

Did they stop watching when players were actually booked - or just whine like little babies?

[Jimjamesak]

Did they stop watching when players were actually booked - or just whine like little babies?

Just whine.

But sadly, to FIFA that’s enough.

[Jimjamesak]

I will add in a post from over on BigSoccer that does give the referees actions a bit of perspective (which I hadn’t really thought to convey here because... well it’s a bit “inside baseball”)

Also, while we shouldn't over-state the suspension/appeals problem, we equally shouldn't under-state what I think is the real issue: survival instincts in the moment.

Chilowicz knows exactly what happens to that match if he pulls a second red card on Nani or another Orlando player. Almost all of us have been there or in similar situations. If that match goes to 11 v 9, it's probably going to 11 v 8 or worse. Orlando's behavior was unhinged already--tossing their captain to put them down two men in a must-win playoff match where the score is 2-1... it's a nightmare for any referee.

So there is an instict to just "get through it." I think it's human nature, honestly. The concious decision to not deal with ref assault (or to turn red cards for it into yellow cards) and blatant dissent that would prompt a 2CT isn't because of what PRO or MLS will do after with your decisions... it's about what would happen for the next 30 minutes.

[Jimjamesak]

Butt unclenched. Seattle beats Dallas 1-0.

FC Dallas is d- good team.

Now, let’s go Loons!

[Kepler]

Butt unclenched. Seattle beats Dallas 1-0.

FC Dallas is d- good team.

Now, let’s go Loons!

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