World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

[JF_Gophers]

Wasn't it smoltz who also lost game 7 of '91? Pitched 7.1 shutout innings and his relievers held another 1.2 innings of shutout.

I thought about that. But his line beyond no runs wasn't that spectacular (6 h, 1 bb, 4 k).

[dxmnkd316]

I thought about that. But his line beyond no runs wasn't that spectacular (6 h, 1 bb, 4 k).

Yeah, 10k and 4 W/H would have been up there then. Maybe he gets a lifetime achievement award.

[French Rage]

My research turns up Jerry West in the 1969 NBA Game 7.

Ooh that's a good one. Especially since that was the story of his whole career (at least if that HBO mini-series taught me anything).

[JF_Gophers]

Thurman Thomas had 190 yds, 1 TD on 20 touches (15 rush, 5 rec) in a Super Bowl loss to the Giants.

[Spartanforlife4]

Lebron in all the Cavs-Warriors finals. He went 1/3 when they won in ‘16, but has an argument for 3/3.

[dxmnkd316]

That's a really good question. Greatest Show on Turf comes to mind. Came up a yard short IIRC. Not sure what individual performances were like.

For some reason I thought St Louis lost that game. Never mind.

[dxmnkd316]

2018 Winter Olympics curling gold medal match.

[Jimjamesak]

This is a great question from a Blocked poster.

My research turns up Jerry West in the 1969 NBA Game 7.

Chuck Howley won Super Bowl V MVP, and was the first defensive player to win it, but he was playing for the Colts.

Bob May at the 2000 PGA Championship is another choice, if that counts as the championship.

Reggie Leach for the Flyers in 1976? Won the Conn Smythe despite being swept by the Canadiens.

[Jimjamesak]

Along those lines, a question for the people who follow soccer closer than I do, as much as we were hearing about Messi being the GOAT, when all is said and done, could he have not even been the best player on the pitch yesterday, with Mbappe being there, by the time their careers are over. Given what Mbappe did last WC and how he almost pulled off something crazier this time, and he's only 23, how difficult would it be for him to eventually eclipse Messi? Granted this is only looking at WC; how do their club accomplishments stack up?

I think Mbappe could surpass Messi but he's gonna need a lot more at the club level, a Champions League at the least but honestly multiples would probably be needed to pass Messi. To be honest, he's not even the best French player of all time, Zidane still has him beat.

On that note, I never understood the Maradona > Pele talk other than Argentinian and Italian jealousy. Maradona did jack s- at the club level, winning only a singular Argentinian title plus two Serie A titles and a UEFA Cup with Napoli. Pele had 6 Brazilian titles (including 5 straight), two Copa Libertadores (the South American Champions League), and two Intercontinental Cups (now the Club World Cup). And that's not even getting into comparing their World Cup accolades.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Here is a question that ran through my mind last night, and honestly, I couldn't come up with any names.

Has there ever been a player, in any sport, in the final (championship) game of that sport, who had a better performance than Mbappe had, and lost. I'm not even a big soccer guy, and it didn't bother me to see Messi win, but I sort of felt bad for Mbappe.

It's like throwing for six touchdowns in the Super Bowl and going down hard.

Maybe Ron Hextall forcing 7 games against Gretzky, Messier, and the rest of the 1987 Edmonton Oilers?

[Kepler]

Reggie Leach for the Flyers in 1976? Won the Conn Smythe despite being swept by the Canadiens.

I was trying to hold it to performance in a single game that decided the title (a championship game or a Final game 7).

If we open it to greatest performance in any loss, there is only one choice.

[Russell Jaslow]

On that note, I never understood the Maradona > Pele talk

People actually say that?! Do any of these people have brains?

[Russell Jaslow]

I was trying to hold it to performance in a single game that decided the title (a championship game or a Final game 7).

If we open it to greatest performance in any loss, there is only one choice.

It helps he was high as hell.

[Kepler]

It helps he was high as hell.

I believe you're thinking of someone else.

[Russell Jaslow]

I believe you're thinking of someone else.

Shoot. Yes, Dock Ellis I was thinking of.