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  • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

    Yet another reason to not play the system we do. Counter attacking would suit our players so much better.
    TBH, not really. Our defense is nowhere good enough for that and our midfield is actually really good at holding the ball and possessing. It’s just our offense is a black hole of suck. No amount of quick counters is going to make up
    for that.

    The biggest problem is that Jozy Altidore was born 8-10 years too early.
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    Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
    Originally posted by Doyle Woody
    Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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    • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
      TBH, not really. Our defense is nowhere good enough for that and our midfield is actually really good at holding the ball and possessing. It’s just our offense is a black hole of suck. No amount of quick counters is going to make up
      for that.

      The biggest problem is that Jozy Altidore was born 8-10 years too early.
      Yet that's pretty much the only way we scored. But yeah...let's keep allowing Berhalter and the rest of US soccer to force a style that we can't effectively play. I personally don't care if foreign pundits say it works. It doesn't for us and if the black hole of offense is happening...it makes no sense to try and break down defenses when we can't finish it anyway. Possession is nothing without scoring.
      "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
      -Gallagher

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      • Sifting the the crap online, this is a good comment:

        I cannot imagine the venom that would have been spit at Landon Donovan if he'd missed the chances Pulisic did this tournament and was as abysmal on dead balls as Christian was.

        The Landycakes and orange slice brigade would have been at his throat.

        Instead they're all going after the coach. If you don't have at least one clinical finisher the '16 and quarter finals are your ceiling.

        Arsene Wenger isn't walking through that door, and even if he does who is going to put the ball in the net?
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        Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
        But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
        Originally posted by Doyle Woody
        Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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        • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

          Yet that's pretty much the only way we scored. But yeah...let's keep allowing Berhalter and the rest of US soccer to force a style that we can't effectively play. I personally don't care if foreign pundits say it works. It doesn't for us and if the black hole of offense is happening...it makes no sense to try and break down defenses when we can't finish it anyway. Possession is nothing without scoring.
          And countering doesn’t work either if you have no one to finish.

          ”Forcing a style” isn’t the problem. Pulisic and Reyna and Aaronson and Weah and Musah and McKennie and others all being talented at running and passing yet not be able to score regularly is the problem.

          They could’ve dusted off Bob Bradley’s empty bucket 4-4-2 from 2010 and it would’ve been the same result.
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          Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
          But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
          Originally posted by Doyle Woody
          Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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          • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
            And countering doesn’t work either if you have no one to finish.

            ”Forcing a style” isn’t the problem. Pulisic and Reyna and Aaronson and Weah and Musah and McKennie and others all being talented at running and passing yet not be able to score regularly is the problem.

            They could’ve dusted off Bob Bradley’s empty bucket 4-4-2 from 2010 and it would’ve been the same result.

            I don't believe that to be the case. I think they have a better chance finishing counter attacking.
            We are not going to agree and you are not going to bash US soccer...so...stalemate it is.
            "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
            -Gallagher

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            • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post


              I don't believe that to be the case. I think they have a better chance finishing counter attacking.
              We are not going to agree and you are not going to bash US soccer...so...stalemate it is.
              The willingness to bash US Soccer has nothing to do with this.

              Name one player eligible for the US who finishes a counter attack against Van Dijk and Ake.

              I’ll wait.
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              Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
              But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
              Originally posted by Doyle Woody
              Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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              • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                The willingness to bash US Soccer has nothing to do with this.

                Name one player eligible for the US who finishes a counter attack against Van Dijk and Ake.

                I’ll wait.
                Pulisic has a better chance doing it that way than trying to break down 8 men doing it the way Berhalter wants. All of them have a better chance on the break...it's ridiculous to say otherwise.
                "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
                -Gallagher

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                Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
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                • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

                  Pulisic has a better chance doing it that way than trying to break down 8 men doing it the way Berhalter wants. All of them have a better chance on the break...it's ridiculous to say otherwise.
                  Pulisic does it the way he does because that’s the way Pulisic plays, not because of Berhalter. He does the same thing at Chelsea (and that’s why he rides the bench a lot at Chelsea).

                  In a counter Pulisic would’ve dribbled at Van Dijk, gotten smashed and lose the ball just like he does now!
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                  Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                  But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                  Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                  Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                  • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

                    Pulisic has a better chance doing it that way than trying to break down 8 men doing it the way Berhalter wants. All of them have a better chance on the break...it's ridiculous to say otherwise.
                    Today, our defense would allowed a half dozen goals before Pulisic would have scored on a counter.

                    Fact is, we had our opportunities today. Here's to a true 9 developing in time for 2026.
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                    • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                      Pulisic does it the way he does because that’s the way Pulisic plays, not because of Berhalter. He does the same thing at Chelsea (and that’s why he rides the bench a lot at Chelsea).

                      In a counter Pulisic would’ve dribbled at Van Dijk, gotten smashed and lose the ball just like he does now!
                      Yes.. he's a better counter attack player than a break down player .. imagine thinking it's better to not play to your players strengths...

                      If you honestly believe that the US is better at breaking down teams than playing a counter attack style there is absolutely no point in arguing with you tactics or not by the coaches... tactics or not by US soccer... If you honestly believe that this team has a better chance at breaking down defense has been playing a counter-attack there's no point
                      Last edited by First Time, Long Time; 12-03-2022, 01:37 PM.
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                      Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                      Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
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                      • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

                        Yes.. he's a better counter attack player than a break down player .. imagine thinking it's better to not play to your players strengths...
                        “Our defense is questionable and our offense is akin to a black hole. I know! Let’s play a system that relies upon tight defense and clinical finishing!”
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                        Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                        I spell Failure with UAF

                        Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                        But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                        Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                        Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

                          Today, our defense would allowed a half dozen goals before Pulisic would have scored on a counter.

                          Fact is, we had our opportunities today. Here's to a true 9 developing in time for 2026.
                          And it still would have ended with the same result. I'd rather play a style that gives us a better chance to win by scoring than one that hopes you can stop team from doing it when it always seems inevitable with our defense.
                          "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
                          -Gallagher

                          R.I.P.
                          Grandpa G. ~ Feb 11, 1918-Oct. 6, 1999
                          Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                          Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
                          Grandpa S. ~ June 21, 1932-November 11, 2013

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                          • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                            “Our defense is questionable and our offense is akin to a black hole. I know! Let’s play a system that relies upon tight defense and clinical finishing!”
                            Better yet ..let's play a style that forces guys to break down players when they have no hope of doing so and wouldn't finish even if they did and hope our **** defense can pull a result...
                            Two can play this game.
                            "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
                            -Gallagher

                            R.I.P.
                            Grandpa G. ~ Feb 11, 1918-Oct. 6, 1999
                            Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                            Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
                            Grandpa S. ~ June 21, 1932-November 11, 2013

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                            • Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post

                              Better yet ..let's play a style that forces guys to break down players when they have no hope of doing so and wouldn't finish even if they did and hope our **** defense can pull a result...
                              You're not an expert
                              Our strength is in the midfield, you play to your strengths. Possess the ball so you limit your opponents chances and create enough that you eventually convert.

                              But hey, your strategy of giving up the ball and negating the teams strength in favor of one relying upon the two biggest weaknesses will totally work.
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                              Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                              But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                              Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                              Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                              • Everyone during the group stages: “It was an obvious mistake to stop possessing the ball and go defensive and try to protect a lead.”

                                FTLT: “What if we did that the whole time!?!”
                                U-A-A!!!Go!Go!GreenandGold!
                                Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                                I spell Failure with UAF

                                Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                                But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                                Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                                Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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