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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Wow!!!
    KSP on steroids.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    This is some bat thit crazy physics.

    the blanked out part is the company now known as X but was twitter.

    https://***********/leometric/status...eyZxICNIw&s=19
    Wow!!!

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  • joecct
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    This is some bat thit crazy physics.

    the blanked out part is the company now known as X but was twitter.

    https://twitter.com/leometric/status...eyZxICNIw&s=19

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    Right, like, there are rich people who have wealth. Honest to god wealth. They own like.. Montana or something. Then there are most wealthy people whose money is tied up in stock.
    The richest families are invisible. They do not appear on any Forbes list. The first thing they do with their wealth is pay to disappear completely. They are the equivalent of the Tessier-Ashpools.

    Anybody known is chump change.

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  • Kepler
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    Huh.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by aparch View Post

    At least Carnegie threw money at libraries (as long as the town was willing to support them).
    Carnegie understood philanthropy. Of course he could have done more, but at the time it was unprecedented progressiveness.

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  • aparch
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    Rockefeller & Carnegie are still the wealthiest people to ever live and it's not close. They literally had entire industries in their pockets.
    At least Carnegie threw money at libraries (as long as the town was willing to support them).

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
    GNP is around 27T, so 2% = 540B.
    Yes. I suck.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Rockefeller & Carnegie are still the wealthiest people to ever live and it's not close. They literally had entire industries in their pockets.

    They are also the one of the key reasons people realized that there needs to be an upper limit to wealth.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Rockefeller was a true billionaire. He was worth 2% of the US GNP. Today that would be 4 trillion dollars.
    Uhhhh. GNP is around 27T, so 2% = 540B.

    Still way more than Musk, and he for sure owned more than just an inflated brand. Even the stocks he owned were in companies that produced real goods and had sensible P/E ratios.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    Rockefeller was a true billionaire. He was worth 2% of the US GNP. Today that would be 4 trillion dollars.
    Right, like, there are rich people who have wealth. Honest to god wealth. They own like.. Montana or something. Then there are most wealthy people whose money is tied up in stock.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    But enough about all billionaires.
    Rockefeller was a true billionaire. He was worth 2% of the US GNP. Today that would be 4 trillion dollars.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    That is an awful example...he was not a billionaire it was all fraud. His numbers were inflated by crypto that he faked the value of while allowing his other company to steal from his investors. He was no more a billionaire than Bernie Madoff was. They were paper tigers...

    Musk is not the same animal.
    But enough about all billionaires.

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  • MichVandal
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    Yes it took an epically bad year and a half and he dropped quite a bit of cash on paper. And after the fact he was still worth nearly $200 billion.

    Look, no one thinks Musk is a bigger idiot than me, but he will be a billionaire 10 years from now. Unless he is killed by the Saudis for tanking Twitter...which is an enjoyable thought.
    If he has to sell off, he’ll not run the companies anymore, right? Which is more important that making him poor.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post

    That is an awful example...he was not a billionaire it was all fraud. His numbers were inflated by crypto that he faked the value of while allowing his other company to steal from his investors. He was no more a billionaire than Bernie Madoff was. They were paper tigers...

    Musk is not the same animal.
    See also Holmes, Elizabeth.

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