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  • #76
    Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
    1) without batman, there is no joker
    2) bruce wayne (who grows up to BE batman) was in the movie

    ergo, batman
    No, that's the difference between a character and a universe.

    Once it becomes universe it can lose any character, even a "foundational" one, and it's still the universe. It's the sign of the maturation of the concept.

    Sherlock Holmes will never be a universe because without him there's no there there. I'd argue Super Man is the same though I defer to DCers. But Batman belongs to a universe so Batman is inessential.

    Now, you may argue the Batman and Super Man universes are identical in which case Super Man is also inessential. But in either case, Batman is inessential.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
      In many of the stories, Batman is a kid when the Joker is in his 20s-30s. Not all of them, but it still happens.
      Hmmmmm. Interesting
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        No, that's the difference between a character and a universe.

        Once it becomes universe it can lose any character, even a "foundational" one, and it's still the universe. It's the sign of the maturation of the concept.

        Sherlock Holmes will never be a universe because without him there's no there there. I'd argue Super Man is the same though I defer to DCers. But Batman belongs to a universe so Batman is inessential.

        Now, you may argue the Batman and Super Man universes are identical in which case Super Man is also inessential. But in either case, Batman is inessential.
        So..... if someone makes a Lois lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up, but one of the dudes is names Clark and has cute hair....

        Is this not a Superman movie?
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        • #79
          Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
          So..... if someone makes a Lois lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up, but one of the dudes is names Clark and has cute hair....

          Is this not a Superman movie?
          If someone makes a Lois Lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up they should be shot. Lois Lane is the ambitious but pure of heart girl reporter. And she's a brunette, obviously, because blondes are evil and redheads are crazy.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            If someone makes a Lois Lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up they should be shot. Lois Lane is the ambitious but pure of heart girl reporter. And she's a brunette, obviously, because blondes are evil and redheads are crazy.
            Mary Jane Watson then and Peter Parker???
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            • #81
              Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              If someone makes a Lois Lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up they should be shot. Lois Lane is the ambitious but pure of heart girl reporter. And she's a brunette, obviously, because blondes are evil and redheads are crazy.
              Selina Kyle in the pantry with a whip and a candlestick?

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              • #82
                Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                Mary Jane Watson then and Peter Parker???
                There are Spider-Man stories where there is no Peter Parker, and Spider-Man stories where it's actually Spider-Girl. They've done a number of those stories in the multiple-universe design. There's even a recent animated movie that's won a large number of awards that touches on these various plots used through that comic's storyline.
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                • #83
                  Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                  Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                  1) without batman, there is no joker
                  2) bruce wayne (who grows up to BE batman) was in the movie

                  ergo, batman
                  No. This is not a Batman story...Bruce Wayne is in the film Batman isnt and (most likely) never will be. I get your point but this is not a universe where Batman grows up to fight the Joker it is a universe where Gotham spawns a Joker. Batman and his age are inconsequential.
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                  • #84
                    Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    So..... if someone makes a Lois lane movie and she is Carrie Underwood jr and sluts it up, but one of the dudes is names Clark and has cute hair....

                    Is this not a Superman movie?
                    Is he flying around wearing a cape and an S at any point? If the answer is no then it is not a Superman film. This isnt rocket science.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      Is he flying around wearing a cape and an S at any point? If the answer is no then it is not a Superman film. This isnt rocket science.
                      As Villanel would say, "BORRING!"

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                      • #86
                        Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        Is he flying around wearing a cape and an S at any point? If the answer is no then it is not a Superman film. This isnt rocket science.
                        So...Superman Returns?

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                        Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                        iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
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                        Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
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                        DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

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                        • #87
                          Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                          Is this still a movie spoiler thread? Can’t there be a thread for people to argue about comics?

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                          • #88
                            Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                            Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            Is this still a movie spoiler thread? Can’t there be a thread for people to argue about comics?
                            The idiot blonde girl in Zombieland 2 doesn't die. I wish she did, though.


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                            • #89
                              Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              The idiot blonde girl in Zombieland 2 doesn't die. I wish she did, though.


                              There.
                              I knew she had to still be alive. It happened off camera. However, I expected her to be a walking corpse that would later bite someone important. I did not expect her to be driving a ****ing clown truck.

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                              • #90
                                Re: The Movie Spoiler Thread. You've Been Warned

                                Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                                I knew she had to still be alive. It happened off camera. However, I expected her to be a walking corpse that would later bite someone important. I did not expect her to be driving a ****ing clown truck.
                                To the fact that of the hatred factor of a million was within me...she was the best actor/actress of the movie. That is how well she nailed her character.
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