Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

[Kepler]

Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

Consider it payment for all the awful stuff the Church has done in the last 2000 years.

Notre Dame ceased being a Catholic symbol long ago. It isn't even a Christian symbol. It is, in order of importance:

1. A symbol of humanity.
2. A symbol of Western Civilization.
3. A symbol of Paris.

Also, Catholicism only got started in the 6th century, so they have just 1400 years to atone for. Now if you're looking for how long the Christians have to atone for, that takes you back to about 100 AD and the Four Evangelists weaponizing Jesus' life.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Last I heard, no.

If it can't be restored to its pristine self...let it go. I'd rather not have a shell of a structure, because it was that beautiful, if you understand what I'm saying.

Consider it payment for all the awful stuff the Church has done in the last 2000 years.

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No, the spire was always dumb.

Should've been a minaret.

[Kepler]

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Is it...wrong...to say it looks better without the spire...?

No, the spire was always dumb.

[French Rage]

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Photos (!) from nearly 200 years ago.

Is it...wrong...to say it looks better without the spire...?

[Kepler]

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It does. Whatever happens, vive la Notre Dame.

Photos (!) from nearly 200 years ago.

[The Rube]

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We disagree. It happens.

It does. Whatever happens, vive la Notre Dame.

[Kepler]

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I get that. I do. I am of the opinion that I would not want to see a shell of its former self. Construct a memorial, ya know?

We disagree. It happens.

[The Rube]

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I don't agree at all. The beauty of the building is beyond how it looks. And its spirit is far beyond that.

Some of the most beautiful and moving of our creations are ruins. Preserve what we can.

I get that. I do. I am of the opinion that I would not want to see a shell of its former self. Construct a memorial, ya know?

[Kepler]

Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

Last I heard, no.

If it can't be restored to its pristine self...let it go. I'd rather not have a shell of a structure, because it was that beautiful, if you understand what I'm saying.

I don't agree at all. The beauty of the building is beyond how it looks. And its spirit is far beyond that.

Some of the most beautiful and moving of our creations are ruins. Preserve what we can.

[The Rube]

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Did those donations ever get in?

Last I heard, no.

If it can't be restored to its pristine self...let it go. I'd rather not have a shell of a structure, because it was that beautiful, if you understand what I'm saying.

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Still a '“50% chance” the structure might not be saved'

Sounds like another special collection is in order.

[MissThundercat]

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They returning all those donations??

Did those donations ever get in?

[mookie1995]

Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

They returning all those donations??

[aparch]

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Still a '“50% chance” the structure might not be saved'

The rector of Notre Dame Cathedral says the Paris landmark is still so fragile that there’s a “50% chance” the structure might not be saved, because scaffolding installed before this year’s fire is threatening the vaults of the Gothic monument.

Monsignor Patrick Chauvet said restoration work isn’t likely to begin until 2021 — and described his “heartache” that Notre Dame couldn’t hold Christmas services this year, for the first time since the French Revolution.

“Today it is not out of danger,” he told The Associated Press on the sidelines of Christmas Eve midnight Mass in a nearby church. “It will be out of danger when we take out the remaining scaffolding.”

“Today we can say that there is maybe a 50% chance that it will be saved. There is also 50% chance of scaffolding falling onto the three vaults, so as you can see the building is still very fragile,” he said.

Chauvet estimated it would take another three years after that to make it safe enough for people to re-enter the cathedral, but that the full restoration will take longer. President Emmanuel Macron has said he wants it rebuilt by 2024, when Paris hosts the Olympics, but experts have questioned whether that time frame is realistic.